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Re: Purchased 06 GT Yesterday... [rkelon]
by rsmith5
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Aug 09, 2006 (7:47 am)
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Replying to: rkelon (Aug 08, 2006 2:40 pm)
Glad to hear that you were also treated fairly and had a good experience at your local dealership. I think you did good. Why are we so shocked when this happens?
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Re: Purchased 06 GT Yesterday... [rsmith5]
by rkelon
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Aug 10, 2006 (9:20 am)
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Replying to: rsmith5 (Aug 09, 2006 7:47 am)
It is because I am constantly be bombarded with hidden transaction deception techniques. For example, attempts to add in freight twice, processing charges, dealer markup, undeserved interest rates...etc. Most car dealers have numerous scams to separate a customer from their money. This is part of the negative taste that is left in the consumer's mouth. Until recently (last 5-10 years), not only did the consumer not get a good deal, but the product was also not competitive. The U.S. auto makers need to focus on making every car in their line-up a hit, steal from the playbook of Toyota and Honda. If I purchased a foreign make I can at least blame it on them trying to ripoff the American consumer, but when I get ripped-off by my own people...it kind of hurts an I loose my loyalty. The dealers need to attempt to assist us, don't hard sell things we really don't need, i.e. extended warrenties...if the car is crap fix it. Don't up-sell someone in to something they can't afford. However, do sell maintenance plans (reasonably priced) and maybe discounted insurance for purchasers of your cars. Out source some internal stuff to AAA. Develop a policy of protecting your customers, but don't trash the other guy...it looks petty.
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- #818 of 1060
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Re: Purchased 06 GT Yesterday... [rkelon]
by rsmith5
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Aug 10, 2006 (12:36 pm)
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Replying to: rkelon (Aug 10, 2006 9:20 am)
Oh, THAT'S why we are shocked when someone has a good experience. We are shocked because it is so RARE.
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Re: Purchased 06 GT Premium today... [cccompson]
by rsmith5
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Aug 12, 2006 (8:54 am)
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Replying to: cccompson (Aug 06, 2006 7:11 am)
FYI, Champion Ford (Katy, TX) has their same, exact classified ad in the Houston Chronicle again this weekend, "all 2006 automatic GTs in stock, $6500 off the MSRP". However, I would be suspicious since the only stock number listed is the SAME one that my daughter bought LAST Saturday. Good luck.
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Re: Purchased 06 GT Premium today... [rsmith5]
by cccompson
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Aug 12, 2006 (10:43 am)
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Replying to: rsmith5 (Aug 12, 2006 8:54 am)
Thanks, although I do regard it with some suspicion I just called your guy. He was vague about the whole thing but did confirm your daughter's transaction. He'll "have to see" if discount applies to other units and is "not sure" how long it lasts. We'll see if he calls back with the details requested.
More generally, I've been appalled at the internet practices of Ford stores with which I've contacted in the past couple of weeks here. My previous experience with other makes in this regard has been VERY positive and resulted in a number of purchases since 2000. For some reason, though, the Ford stores (with just a couple of exceptions) have been horrible, refusing even supply a requested price quote.
At least here in Central Ohio the market for these cars has virtually collapsed with very few units selling since new incentives were announced at the beginning of the month.
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Re: Purchased 06 GT Premium today... [cccompson]
by rsmith5
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Aug 12, 2006 (12:21 pm)
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Replying to: cccompson (Aug 12, 2006 10:43 am)
Well, their AD in today's paper says "now through Monday at Champion Ford Katy" at the top of the page. Let us know how they follow up. My guy DID follow-up with several returned phone calls before we ever drove to the dealership. Good luck.
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Whats an Ideal Price
by praizada
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Aug 13, 2006 (3:05 pm)
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Hi,
I am looking to Buy a Mustang V6 Premium coupe in the New Jersey area. I am OK with a 2006 model. The options that I think I absolutely need are
1) Automatic transmission
2) Antilock brakes and traction control
3) Exterior color: Black
4) Leather seats
I have a budget of around 20,000. Cant really go above it. Is this a good enough budget for getting the above options.
Thanks in advance.
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Re: Whats an Ideal Price [praizada]
by cccompson
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Aug 13, 2006 (5:01 pm)
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Replying to: praizada (Aug 13, 2006 3:05 pm)
Go to Ford's website and check dealer inventories in your area. You can see options, prices, and incentives. Figure your price, at maximum, as invoice minus incentives. Their "invoice" numbers include ad fees which you may well not be charged for - compare the numbers with those on this site.
Also be sure to check to see what kind of financing Ford is offering - the interest rate can make a huge difference in payments.
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Re: Whats an Ideal Price [cccompson]
by rsmith5
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Aug 14, 2006 (9:10 am)
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Replying to: cccompson (Aug 13, 2006 5:01 pm)
Your minimum requirements generate a MSRP (including destination) of about $23,275. I see ads in the Houston area advertising V6's at $5000 off MSRP. Adding TX sales tax of 6.25% plus title and tag should still get a 2006 out the door in this part of the country for slightly under $20,000. Follow the above post's suggestion to use Ford's view of your local dealer's 2006's inventory, find a black V6 premium with a MSRP of under $24,000 and click on 'get an internet price'. The 2006s will have at least the $1500 advantage over the 2007s due to the rebate. Add your local tax, title, license to see how close they can get before you go to the dealer. Refuse dealer installed options like a security system at an inflated price that can jack up the price. Know your financing alternatives at your credit union beforehand. Good luck.
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Gullo Ford Conroe, TX
by rsmith5
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Aug 15, 2006 (2:10 pm)
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Bad experience at Gullo Ford in Conroe, TX. Yes, the mailed advertisement sounded too good to be true, but when I called and spoke to a salesman there and questioned the stated rebate of $3500, he said it was new and to come on in and they would get as close to the advertised deal as possible on another unit. I realize that the saleman did not write the ad, but he could check it out instead of using it to get me in the door. His manager was no better saying the referenced stock number was a pickup. This was another example of why you should insist on a stock number that you can verify with Ford's inventory of what is supposed to be in stock before you go to Gullo Ford Conroe. Fool me once....
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