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Ford Mustang, Ford Mustang SVT Cobra, Coupe, Convertible
#1129 of 1138 Re: My new 2014 - Best budget commuter ever [ken117]
Jul 16, 2013 (9:58 pm)
I'm not denigrating anything other than the fact that many other vehicles are plainly overpriced, lack the same power and handling, and most of all, are bland, souless jellybeans.
I had $20K to spend on a car and after it was all said and done, I got a great car for just under $20K. I'm happy as can be about it, considering that almost everything else at $20K was an econobox. 300HP, 30mphg highway, and $20K. That's a compelling alternative to a typical economy car.
No, more like it body-slams them and then takes their girlfriend.
That the best price you can manage on a Civic EX was $19K is nobody's fault but Honda's. That GM is making cars that look good but have less power and no better MPG than they did 15 years ago shows that there's a massive disconnect in engineering effort. Again, it's not that Ford is making a better car so much as the others are dropping the ball and charging way too much.
The Mustang is an awesome car and it's also an absolute steal if you get it without any overpriced options.
Note - I'm not having a problem at all with the V8. But it makes zero sense to buy the base model and load it up with options.
#1130 of 1138 Re: My new 2014 - Best budget commuter ever [plekto]
Jul 17, 2013 (5:49 am)
Great, the only thing that matters is being pleased with the vehicle and the price paid.
However, reality is not everyone views a base level 300hp faux sports car as the top of the heap. I have considered purchasing a Ford, even a Mustang with many of the overpriced extras. However my past history with Ford was not pleasing. Remember the Aerostar or Bronco II?
Personally I am quite happy with my soulless Acura with its crappy FWD, overpriced extras, and boxy style. Gives me a safe comfortable daily drive and is never in a repair shop. I give all the blame to Honda.
I do think your comments are indeed intended as a bit of an insult to those who purchased what you classify as a soulless jellybean. So it goes!
#1131 of 1138 Re: My new 2014 - Best budget commuter ever [ken117]
Jul 21, 2013 (12:16 am)
Well, this IS the Ford Mustang topic here, so it's understandable that there's a bit of a bias. I will tell you, though, that Ford is far more reliable, far more aggressive with its pricing and value, and is clearly aiming for the competition like it never has in the past 20+ years.
It's a $30K car for closer to $20K after the smoke clears. Is it a Cadillac CTS or a Lexus or a BMW 3 series? Or a Cayman? Of course not. But it pounds something like a Civic or a Mazda 3 quite handily. People think about it wrong. It's not that it's a better car than a $35K BMW or G37. Or your Acura. It's that it costs so little and gives you enormous speed, handling, and power compared to everything in that price range.
It's not a sports car. It's an econobox destroyer and the best deal for a first time buyer out there.
#1132 of 1138 Re: My new 2014 - Best budget commuter ever [plekto]
Jul 21, 2013 (5:38 am)
Actually, I like the Mustang. Am looking to pick up a convertible, if I can locate one I like. Of course, it will not be a twenty thousand stripped model. That sort of defeats the purpose of buying a Mustang.
My point is a Mustang is a different vehicle than a Civic and it appeals to a different buyer. It is a red herring to attempt to compare the two. Denigrating an "econo box" to justify purchasing a pretend sports car seems a tad bit of a rationalization.
Just be happy with your choice. No need to attack another's choice.
#1133 of 1138 Re: My new 2014 - Best budget commuter ever [plekto]
Jul 21, 2013 (5:45 am)
It might be good to note a bit a reality. There are a lot more Civics, Corollas, and Elantras on the roads than Mustangs. Apparently, more Americans view those vehicles more highly than a comparably priced Mustang.
#1134 of 1138 Re: My new 2014 - Best budget commuter ever [karhill1]
Jul 21, 2013 (1:19 pm)
I don't know if you can say that. There are a lot more F150 pickups sold than Corollas and Civics. That doesn't mean the American people view them more highly. They're just different vehicles for different purposes. I had a Mustang GT for many years and loved it. When our kids came along I got rid of it for a sedan. Just different needs for different folks.
I do agree that if you would ask the question, what car gives you the most bang for the buck in terms of power, speed and handling for $20K, a V6 stick Mustang is hard to beat.
#1135 of 1138 Re: new base stang
Jul 21, 2013 (5:21 pm)
Just to clarify a comment by the super enthusiastic new mustang buyer, a v6 mustang gets nowhere near the mpg as a civic. I know people driving the newer civics and getting mid 30s easily in city driving. The combine mpg of a base mustang is like 22, the same as a 370z actually! Enjoy your new ride! That's all that's important.
#1136 of 1138 Re: new base stang [dat2]
Jul 22, 2013 (2:13 am)
I'm getting 25 mpg combined with mine. I think it's the manual and the stock gearing/tires that do it. That 25mpg combined is in rush hour traffic. complete with half hour traffic jams, no less. The reality is that it gets very good fuel economy if you drive it right. Though, the on-board fuel economy display is consistently 10-15% lower than what the pump says. It says I get 23mpg, and my receipt says 25. I don't know why Ford would be calculating it so far off, and yes, it is a known issue.
I'll sacrifice a few mpg for the rest of what you get, though. 25mpg for my daily commute is pretty nice compared to the 15mpg I was getting in my old car.
Jul 22, 2013 (5:26 am)
I'm enjoying the heck out of my 2013 Mustang GT Convertible. It's a total blast to drive, the mileage really isn't bad (17 or so in stop and go city driving; 22 - 25 on the highway), and it looks like a million bucks when it's clean. No, it's not an AMG Mercedes or Ferrari, but I could buy 3 or 4 Mustangs for that sort of money. I've got all those (expensive) bells and whistles, and I don't regret a one of them.
#1138 of 1138 2014 Ford Mustang Base V6 Manual Trans
Nov 25, 2013 (9:09 am)
I recently helped my father-in-law purchase a new 2014 Ford Mustang V6 Base 6 speed manual with no options.
Dealer Discount: $1395
Ford incentives: $2500
Purchase price: $19,100
Total discount: $3895
The prices paid forum is an incredibly valuable tool and I want to say thank you to all those who have contributed.