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#117 of 149 Re: persistent rain leak [aatherton] by tinkuy Apr 25, 2007 (8:29 pm)
Replying to: aatherton (Apr 25, 2007 11:29 am) The vapor barrier, as I understand it, is that Tyvek-like material inside the structure of the door. My suspicion is that the leaking problem in xAs goes far beyond the vapor barrier & door & window seals, since Toyota attempted to fix those items repeatedly in my vehicle and the damn car still leaks. Must be some fundamental design flaw. Replies to this message: sbrown4 (May 10, 2007 5:21 am)
#118 of 149 Re: a 2008 or 2006 xB [lingnan] by aatherton Apr 26, 2007 (6:21 pm)
Replying to: lingnan (Apr 25, 2007 6:37 pm) "...Since they are not making no more new model except for 2008, can any one spare the time and tell me whether i should buy the 2006 model or wait for the new 2008 which has bigger engine and different appearance."   They are completely different cars in size, power, appearance, and the 2008 is about $1500 more. Since you apparently do not already have a particular need or preference for the smaller 2006, and since the 2006 is now "take what you can find", you may as well order a 2008 they way you like it. Replies to this message: lingnan (Apr 27, 2007 8:04 am)
#119 of 149 Re: a 2008 or 2006 xB [aatherton] by lingnan Apr 27, 2007 (8:04 am)
Replying to: aatherton (Apr 26, 2007 6:21 pm) Thank you for your suggestion. Deeply appreciated.
#120 of 149 good suggestion, Mr. Atherton by lingnan May 09, 2007 (6:13 pm)
I went in and test drove the 2008 xB today and find it lot more pleasing, especially the redesigning of the dash and gear shifter which also comes with sequential shifting. It has a lot of pull when putting your foot of the paddle and the 4 wheel disc brakes are so responsive. Unfortunate thing is the model I drove today has a lot of upgrade, i.e. steel wheels and sport package. So, I have to get my hands on the basic automatic again, when its available which, according to the salesman, will be another 10 days wait. (Originally, he called me yesterday afternoon about the silver with auto, and basic that I want him to contact me. But when we were there, he said it was sold yesterday w/o informing me. I was little unhappy about that, because its 30 miles from my house.) Overall, this is a better and improved model, at least to my standard because I'm more incline with bigger engine cars. Just as we were coming home from the dealer, this absent minded driver, merged right into my lane w/o even looking. Lucky I have a powerful engine to haul away from his path. Another reason that a bigger engine can provide escape from situation. But, I don't think this car is suitable for younger drivers, if they are not experienced with such engine size. It really gets up and go. But the lucky thing is the 4 wheel disc brakes plays a compensating role. In any event, this is a totally different car as you have mentioned to me earlier and its curb appeal is even better than the old model.
#121 of 149 Re: persistent rain leak [tinkuy] by sbrown4 May 10, 2007 (5:21 am)
Replying to: tinkuy (Apr 25, 2007 8:29 pm) Hi All, I'm another one. I have a leak too. It's on my passenger side. Similar, if not the same, problem as was describe in a previous email: "Water . . . dribbles onto the floor. . . It accumulates on the sill & makes it's way into the car." If it rains hard enough, I can have a puddle on the floor.   One of the previous writer said it seems to happen when the car is at an angle of 5 degrees or more. That info. was very helpful info. My driveway is at a slight angle. That could explain why it leaks for me & not Toyota. I've brought it in 9 or 10 times now, with no resolutions. The last time I brought it in Toyota acknowledged that the floor was wet, but said it was from someone wet shoes - Give me a break! They tried numerous things to fix it; none have worked. Although Toyota would argue that it's fixed now. (Like they've said 9 or 10 times now.) I wonder how many more people are having the same problem. Maybe it will take a group of people complaining to get Toyota to do something (wishful thinking). I am suing Toyota under the lemon law. It's been dragging on & on. It should come to a head some time this summer. As others have said, it's soooo frustrating. In my opinion, it's just a disgrace that Toyota isn't just acknowledging that there is a problem & doing the right thing. ( I guess they didn't realize that I thought I was buying the Scion Xa without the leak option. lol.) It's good to know I'm not the only one!
#122 of 149 Towing a XB by n92cp May 22, 2007 (4:50 pm)
Can a 2006 or 2007 XB be towed behind a motor home without damage to the drive train? Manual transmission? Automatic transmission? Also, about how much does the 06 or o7 XB weigh?   Thanks N92CP
#123 of 149 Re: Towing by aatherton May 23, 2007 (6:34 am)
The xB weighs 2400 lbs. You can flat-tow a 5-speed. An automatic must have the front wheels off the ground. See "Dinghy Towing" in the manual. If a dolly is used, it puts the rear bumper pretty close to the ground. Here are some links to products: http://www.aemfg.com http://www.hitchcorner.com/tow_bars.htm http://www.roadmasterinc.com/ http://www.roadmaster-tow-bars.com
#124 of 149 Re: persistent rain leak [scie] by jek2 Jun 03, 2007 (6:58 am)
Replying to: scie (Jan 23, 2007 1:55 pm) I have a 2006 xA and had this happen a few months ago and called the dealership and they told me that the door must have been left open or the window wasn't up all the way - this of course was not so. It was on the passenger side floor after a major rain event. I saw another comment someone made about the car being on an angle - mine was parked on an angle with the passenger side lower than the driver's side. I haven't had a problem since.
#125 of 149 2005 XB automatic - shift lag by lululithgow Jun 04, 2007 (7:59 pm)
I just bought an 05 XB WITH 29,000 ml. I have noticed that when I first drive, the engine revs like crazy before it shifts into 2nd or 3rd gear - I can't figure out which. I am used to driving a standard 88 volvo so I don't really know what is normal behavior. It only does it in while the coolant light is blue - basically the first time it runs thru the gears and only if it has sat for 5 or 6 hours. I first thought my scion was bought for personal use but later found out it was a company car - which makes me nervous. I bought the extended warranty - 7yrs/100,000 ml, but I've been reading that some people are having a hard time with repairs under warranty. I want to be happy with my Scion seeing as it's the first near new car I have bought in 20 years, but the payment book arrived today and I'm starting to wonder if I made a huge mistake. Replies to this message: aatherton (Jun 05, 2007 7:01 pm) lululithgow (Jun 06, 2007 6:49 am)
#126 of 149 Re: 2005 XB automatic - shift lag [lululithgow] by aatherton Jun 05, 2007 (7:01 pm)
Replying to: lululithgow (Jun 04, 2007 7:59 pm) "... when I first drive, the engine revs like crazy before it shifts into 2nd or 3rd gear - I can't figure out which... It only does it in while the coolant light is blue - basically the first time it runs thru the gears and only if it has sat for 5 or 6 hours..."   Until the blue light goes out (137 degrees), the computer will not let the transmission upshift into 4th gear. This is by design. You should not be revving the engine like crazy in 3rd gear trying to make the transmission upshift before the blue light is out. Replies to this message: lululithgow (Jun 06, 2007 6:49 am)

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