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Mods for tc by kickyou808
Jun 21, 2006 (7:22 pm)
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i'm new to car modifications, and i just recently bought a k and n filter and a borla exhaust system for my 05 scion tc, i'm just wondering what would be good to add on next...i'm not really going for looks right now, i just want to build speed first, and i don't have the money to really buy a supercharger or a turbo kit for it yet so what would be a good option to go with right now?
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Re: Mods for tc [kickyou808] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jun 22, 2006 (7:22 am)
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Replying to: kickyou808 (Jun 21, 2006 7:22 pm)

drop in filters are of dubious merit. Cold air intake would be a much better investment for you I think. Better wheels and tires always make a car more fun to drive.
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Re: Mods for tc [Mr_Shiftright] by kickyou808
Jun 22, 2006 (6:25 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jun 22, 2006 7:22 am)

yeah i got a cold air intake from k and n and if i wanted to have cool wheels and tires i would have gone for maybe a sedan.
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Re: Mods for tc [kickyou808] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jun 23, 2006 (8:38 am)
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Replying to: kickyou808 (Jun 22, 2006 6:25 pm)

Well I was thinking that the OEM tires that comes with the car maybe aren't the best for grip and handling. Part of the fun of driving is not only 0-60 but throwing the car around in the twisties, don't you think?
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Re: Mods for tc [Mr_Shiftright] by kickyou808
Jun 23, 2006 (10:09 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jun 23, 2006 8:38 am)

yeah you're right about that maybe i should look in to it
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Re: Mods for tc [kickyou808] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jun 24, 2006 (10:32 am)
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Replying to: kickyou808 (Jun 23, 2006 10:09 pm)

The xA and xB need better tires and sway bars. I'd also recommend the short-shifter and the front strut brace and the DC sport muffler. As for the engine, you know with 1.5 liters you can only do so much before you have to turbocharge/supercharge it. Blitz makes what seems like a nice turbo setup but I haven't read any tests on it.
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Re: Mods for tc [Mr_Shiftright] by aatherton
Jun 26, 2006 (3:59 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jun 24, 2006 10:32 am)

They have no rear sway bar, and adding one made my xB corner flatter and without oversteer that used to make the back end feel like it was going to swing out. Adding a front strut brace made no difference at all, as you would expect, because the front strut mounts don't flex in any kind of driving you can do. The short shifter I passed on, because I shift with a measured clop-clop to save the synchros and enjoy the feel. I passed on a sport muffler because I love the muted growl of the stock muffler with the windows down, like the faint resonance which announces 60 mph, and would not want to have to sound-deaden the rear hatch for trips as people with loud mufflers do. Also, a loud muffler lets the world know how hard the little engine is working - a mouse that roars. I saw a turbocharged xB, and you have to remove the grille to check the oil or wait until the engine is cold. A local firm is producing a $3,500 xB turbo kit that makes 185 hp for lightning acceleration, but with the downsides of needing to change the clutch, ruining the mileage, gaining no more speed, and shortening the life of the engine.
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Re: Mods for tc [aatherton] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jun 26, 2006 (9:21 pm)
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Replying to: aatherton (Jun 26, 2006 3:59 pm)

Great---we all make good choices depending on our needs. I think the strut brace will help me...I live in a place with extreme curves on the downhills and I'm sure the front struts are flexing a bit. But not all cars respond to front strut braces in the same way,that is true.
 
As for the muffler, my stock xA muffler sounds like a can of gnats. I definitely would pick and choose the aftermarket muffler carefully. You can even listen to the various choice at scionlife.com before you buy. Some scion owners have thoughtfully recorded the various resonances of different mufflers!
 
I haven't look very closely at the turbo installations. 185 HP sounds like way too much stress on that Scion engine. Geez, what kind of boost are they running? Can you say KABOOM? I was thinking 130-135HP tops is all I'd need, with very modest boost.
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Re: Mods for tc [Mr_Shiftright] by aatherton
Jun 27, 2006 (3:31 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jun 26, 2006 9:21 pm)

"... You can even listen to the various choice at scionlife.com before you buy. Some scion owners have thoughtfully recorded the various resonances of different mufflers! "
 
I downloaded and saved all those clips. They all start up and rev in neutral, and the sound quality is poor. From that I can't tell what the sound is like under acceleration load and cruising at 65. My stock muffler is plenty loud - I would be afraid to travel with anything louder.
 
Over the years, I have put tasteful low restriction exhausts on two BMW 2002s, a VW Rabbit, and a couple of motorcycles. Although the sound was nice short term, after awhile it was too much and I reverted to stock.
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modification report by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jun 29, 2006 (4:02 pm)
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I finally got the Progress rear sway bar on the xA (same as for the xB) and the DC Sports front strut bar and I must say the handling is much improved. "Turn in" is much quicker and I swear the ride is less bumpy. HIGHLY recommended mods and very easy to do.
 
The DC sport muffler? I'm undecided about whether I like it or not. Up to 65 mph it's quite pleasant but it does seem to drone a bit at 70 mph....nothing bad but perhaps over 8 hours it might get to some people.
 
I was thinking of buying or making a little silencer to insert in the barrel of the muffler if I take a long trip.

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