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How does altitude effect a GX by liderbug
Apr 02, 2008 (1:21 pm)
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I just had an city employee say "Oh, no!!! Stay away from a CNG car. They do not do well at 6000 ft. Very poor mileage, parts wear out quickly ....". True? He's FOS! What?
 
Thanks
Chuck
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Re: How does altitude effect a GX [liderbug] by xando05
Apr 03, 2008 (7:20 pm)
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Replying to: liderbug (Apr 02, 2008 1:21 pm)

Wow, that's the first I heard about CNG vs altitude. I want to find out more about that claim.
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Re: How does altitude effect a GX [xando05] by xpacific
Apr 03, 2008 (7:29 pm)
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Replying to: xando05 (Apr 03, 2008 7:20 pm)

I drive my Civic GX all over Utah at high altitudes with no problems whatsoever. It is the cold that can sometimes be a problem with natural gas vehicles. At zero Fahrenheit it takes extra cranking to start and Honda states that you should not fast-fill below -4F or risk damaging the fueling system (slow filling using Phill or a Fuelmaker FM4, FM-Q2-36 etc. is fine).
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Civic GX by jvenglass
Apr 05, 2008 (12:06 pm)
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I'm looking to get a New 2008 Civic GX for my wife I would like to see if I can find
out some more info.
 
1. Is the cost of upkeep greater on the Civic GX over any other new Civic?
 
2.Cost of driving? Looking in the catalog I picked up for the honda dealer they are
showing the MPG as 24/36
 
3. Home refill or useing fuel centers? The PHILL unit looks to cost alot plus it
needs to be Remade each 3000 to 5000 hours of use? do you end up saving
alot of money just useing fuel center?
 
4. We live in So.Cal. will the be making/opening more fuel centers as time
gose on?
 
5.Resale the honda salesman told use that the resale on this car is very bad
not like say a Civic LX ?
 
If we were to buy one in the next 4 to 6 weeks would there be any tax savings offers?
 
My wife drives about 100 miles round trip each day to work here in So.Cal.
 
Any other info you guys may think is helpful would be great as well.
 
Thanks.
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Re: Civic GX [jvenglass] by dejapooh
Apr 05, 2008 (6:14 pm)
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Replying to: jvenglass (Apr 05, 2008 12:06 pm)

1. Is the cost of upkeep greater on the Civic GX over any other new Civic?
Yes, somewhat higher. The fuel filters need to be replaced. THe price is coming down as the service technicians realize that they only need to change the insert and not the entire filter housing. A few hundred dollars every 30,000 miles.
  
2.Cost of driving? Looking in the catalog I picked up for the honda dealer they are
showing the MPG as 24/36
I am getting a full 35 MPGge. You could get less or more depending upon your driving habits and where you drive.
  
3. Home refill or useing fuel centers? The PHILL unit looks to cost alot plus it
needs to be Remade each 3000 to 5000 hours of use? do you end up saving
alot of money just useing fuel center?
I have a filling station near my house (about 7 miles), Near my work (about 5 miles), and near my wife's work (about 3 miles). Not only does the Phill have to be rebuilt, but it has to be sent to canada to be rebuilt. I am thinking about getting a CNG Crown Vic for my wife and getting a 2 hose FM 2. It will cost about $6000 or maybe $7000, but it will lower the price of gas for my house, for my car, and can be rebuilt onsite. It can also be rebuilt an unlimited number of times. This means that it will always have some resale value.
  
4. We live in So.Cal. will the be making/opening more fuel centers as time
gose on?
They may. They may not. No way to know. Don't plan on it. If they don't, will you be ok with the filling centers as they exist? If not, don't go this way.
  
 
5.Resale the honda salesman told use that the resale on this car is very bad
not like say a Civic LX ?
The resale is going up because of demand in Utah and Ok. Fuel prices are under $1 there, so people are buying them as fast as they can. From what I've seen, price for used is up about 15% to 30% in the last year. Never buy a car based on what it will be worth when you sell it. I assume I will squeeze all of the juice out of this orange. If you take care of it, you can expect a GX to last between 350,000 miles to 500,000 miles (the fuel is cleaner, leaves fewer if any deposits on the engine, and it is less corrosive).
 
If I were buying mine now, knowing what I know, I would either buy used 2001 or older. I would buy 2 of them and get a Fuel Maker 2 for the same price as a 2008 GX. If I were INTENT on buying a new one, I would start with Curtis Martin over in Lancaster. He runs the CNG newsgroup on Yahoo and is working hard to publicize the GX and so on. I hear he can give good deals. ANY dealer can order you a gx for sale. They all pay the same price. Maybe one will give you a better deal. Go during normal business hours so they can contact Honda USA and find out what it would cost.
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Re: Civic GX [dejapooh] by jvenglass
Apr 06, 2008 (2:46 pm)
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Replying to: dejapooh (Apr 05, 2008 6:14 pm)

The FM2 unit that can be rebuilt at your home? are there people in So.Cal. that
could do this and at what cost?
 
Do you have Curtis Martins e-mail address? How do I find the Yahoo group?
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Re: Civic GX [jvenglass] by xpacific
Apr 06, 2008 (3:48 pm)
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Replying to: jvenglass (Apr 06, 2008 2:46 pm)

Curtis has mostly migrated his community over to CNGchat
http://www.cngchat.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=52
 
BTW I really love my FM-Q2-36. I have 3 natural gas vehicles, so having two hoses and being able to crank-out a gallon per hour is great. Bought it new for around $8k under Honda's special deal for new GX buers. I look at it like home furniture... costs a bit upfront but will use it for a lifetime. Phill made no economic sense to me due to the send-back-to-Canada refurbish requirements. Of course. for some people Phill is the only way to go if you must have an indoor setup due to HOA rules, etc.
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Is Civic GX Zero Emmissons? ? ? ? by jvenglass
Apr 06, 2008 (5:41 pm)
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Is the Civic GX a Zero Emmissions Vehicle? My wife is looking at the 91 toll Road here in So.Cal. and they offer and discount on zero Emmisson vehicle? would that work with
the civic GX?
 
What are the Silver HOV stickers VS the Yellow?
 
Thanks.
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Re: Is Civic GX Zero Emmissons? ? ? ? [jvenglass] by epnfrn
Apr 06, 2008 (9:15 pm)
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Replying to: jvenglass (Apr 06, 2008 5:41 pm)

jvenglass -- it appears that you are repeatably asking the same questions (in this case - yellow vs. silver stickers).
 
please spend some time looking around these forums before you ask these questions (especially before you ask them multiple times). you will likely find the vast majority of the answers you are seeking in these forums.
 
epi
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Re: Is Civic GX Zero Emmissons? ? ? ? [epnfrn] by epnfrn
Apr 14, 2008 (8:06 pm)
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Replying to: epnfrn (Apr 06, 2008 9:15 pm)

jvenglass - didn't want to scare you away! after perusing through other galleries, if anything doesn't make sense, please do post again
 
epi

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