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Re: Maximum GX range? [xpacific] by 99civiccng
Jul 18, 2007 (3:25 pm)
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Replying to: xpacific (Jul 18, 2007 2:51 pm)

From a "fast fill" (regular CNG station) -- where I filled it up 1/2 tank - the max range I've gotten out of my 2006 GX is 221 miles.
 
If you do an overnight fill, I'd guess you could possibly get another 10 miles out of it, but that would reeaaaaaallly be stretching it.
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Re: Question about 2006 Civic GX Wheel Sizes [jim314] by 99civiccng
Jul 18, 2007 (3:30 pm)
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Replying to: jim314 (Jul 10, 2007 3:35 pm)

I've had about a week of the new tires under my belt now and I can't see any perceptible decrease in fuel economy. It's about the same.
 
The tires are actually 205/60-16 89H Hankook Optomo tires - which actually have good reviews over Tire Rack.
 
They are 5mm larger in height (no clearance issues, btw), so I've calculated a 3% difference in actual speed vs. speed shown on speedo (i.e., speed shown on speedo is now 3% LOWER than actual speed).
 
I've kept the tire pressure 36psi all around and the ride is a vast improvement over the stock tires - torque steer has been greatly diminished.
 
I have no idea what the guy with the EX did for tires - the car wasn't there when I bought them
 
As for mine? I figure I can eBay the wheel covers and then give away the tires/steel rims to a recycling center -- I don't think they have much value.
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GX Rear Speaker Installation - any reason why not? by 99civiccng
Jul 18, 2007 (3:32 pm)
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I'm thinking about a DIY rear spear install on the rear shelf of my 06 GX but want to proceed with caution. Looking at the trunk, where the CNG tank is, I believe I can fit speakers in the stock location w/o much headache. But am wondering if there was any "real" reason Honda didn't do this for any of the CNG models it has produced (98-00/01-05/06-07). Is there chance of an electrical spark from the speaker wire? If so, it seems odd because there is other electrical running near the tank...
 
Thoughts? Anyone attempt something like this (i.e. not a surface mount solution)?
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Re: GX Rear Speaker Installation - any reason why not? [99civiccng] by epnfrn
Jul 18, 2007 (5:18 pm)
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Replying to: 99civiccng (Jul 18, 2007 3:32 pm)

to DIY speaker -- nope, you will NOT be able to fit rear speakers there. i have a 2006 that i completely stripped out so that I could see how much room there was ... answer, about an inch. i've never heard of a decent speaker 1" deep, which means you'll have to custom fabricate some type of enclosure to raise the height up. my advice to you is put a nice amp in the trunk, and get nice component speakers for up front. after many many hours of thinking about rear speakers, i just don't think there is a reasonable solution. if you find one, let me know!
 
to 2007 tank capacity -- on my 2006, i regularly get 250-260mi on a fast-fill tank. and this is in the bay area, which i would suggest means part city/ part highway due to the traffic. even after 254mi, i can only jam in 6.593GGE ... suggesting i might have eaked out a little more (though i was NOT going to try!!) i don't have personal experience with a slow fill, but as others have suggested, you can likely get even more miles.
 
epi
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Re: Question about 2006 Civic GX Wheel Sizes [99civiccng] by jim314
Jul 18, 2007 (5:53 pm)
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Replying to: 99civiccng (Jul 18, 2007 3:30 pm)

I calc the same 3% change (2.8%) in speedo and odo readings as you did. With the new tires if the odo says a trip was 100 mi, it was actually 103 mi (102.8 mi), and if your speedo reads 70 mph then the actual speed is 72 mph.
 
At a true speed of 70 mph your speedo will read 68 mph and your engine rpms will be 3 % lower than with the OE tires at the same true speed. This should lower true fuel consumption per unit distance (i.e. increase true mpg) cruising on level ground at legal speeds. You have in effect raised the gearing by 3%.
 
Unloaded diameter* of 205/60-16 is 25.69 inches. If the the OE tire was 195/65-15 (dia 24.98 in), then to get the correct values you would multiply the speedo and odo readings by 25.69/24.98 = 1.03 (1.028).
 
*(205mm)(1in/25.4mm)(0.60)(2) + 16in = 25.685 inch
 
If the OE tire was 195/65-15, then the dia of the new tire is larger by 0.71 inch (or 18 mm) and the radius would be larger by 9 mm. So with the new tires you get 9mm more ground clearance and the top of the vehicle is 9 mm higher above the road. This will increase your aerodynamic drag by a probably negligible amount. But if you use the same hwy cruise setting in mph reading on the speedo as you did with the OE tires, you will actually be driving 2.8% faster and so you would increase the aerodynamic part of the fuel consumption per mile by a factor of 1.028^2 = 1.057. That is, the fuel use per mile could increase by close to 5.7% because you are actually driving faster and the aerodynamic effect on fuel consumed per unit distance travelled is proportional to the speed squared.
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Re: Maximum GX range? [xpacific] by d_link
Jul 19, 2007 (7:20 am)
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Replying to: xpacific (Jul 18, 2007 2:51 pm)

On our 1998 GX, the best we have earned nearly "bone dry" was 295 miles. This was on a trip through the wine country of Northern California, on highways with a maximum speed limit of 55mph. When we have to drive freeway speeds, our maximum is around 220 to 230 miles. Quick starts or leadfoot driving, extensive A/C use, stop and go, and heavy braking will all increase fuel consumption. With stop and go around town driving, we usually get 160 to 180 miles a tank (local refueling is only 3000 psi fast fill, so we lose at least 15-20% range). With "reasonable" highway driving, we usually get 220 to 240 miles a tank. We now have 75,000 miles on the car, so we have quite a few years of experience from which to draw.
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Re: Maximum GX range? [d_link] by adea
Jul 19, 2007 (8:24 pm)
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Replying to: d_link (Jul 19, 2007 7:20 am)

x...i'm curious how many gge you put in before your wine country trip...i have a 2000 GX and before I added an extra tank, the most I ever obtained on a 6.5 gge fill at 4500 psi was 210 before the light and then 58 more after that. So you averaged 45 or better on that tank which is incredible.
Garry
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Press Request by KarenS HOST
Nov 15, 2007 (6:14 am)
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Civic GX Availability, Motor Oil Type by sierrapaul
Dec 22, 2007 (3:34 pm)
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Why does it take so long to get one of these cars? I live in central California, and I currently have a local Honda dealer that has been looking for a 2008 Civic GX for me for over a month now--but all they can find is a white one. I will NOT accept a white or black car, as I think they are ugly. It is very frustrating to have the money to buy the car, and have the need to buy the car, have the willingness to buy the car, but NOT have the car I want available!! Am I going to have to wait 3, 4, 6 months, a year, until they find my car for me??
 
When I finally do get my Civic GX (assuming that time ever comes), can I use synthetic motor oil in it?
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Re: Civic GX Availability, Motor Oil Type [sierrapaul] by epnfrn
Dec 22, 2007 (3:53 pm)
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Replying to: sierrapaul (Dec 22, 2007 3:34 pm)

sierrapaul --- i would suggest branching out and finding another dealership that supports the GX. clearly you are not in the bay area, but just as an example ... there are about 5 dealerships within an hour of the bay area that support the GX. when i was looking for a GX, i could have picked one up from any of the 5 - all of them having multiple copies, or slated to have multiple copies within a month.
 
i of course haven't looked in a while, but i bet that you would be able to get whatever you want if you are willing to look at the LA area and SF area. my guess is that your local place just isn't willing to do to much work for you (big surprise!) another benefit potentially being a better $ deal if you are willing to do a little driving.
 
the other thing i'm wondering ... my understanding was that only certain 'authorized' dealerships were able to sell the GX (aka - someone trained on CNG). perhaps your dealership isn't authorized, so other dealers are less willing to work with them to get you what you are looking for. i could be totally wrong, but possibly??
 
hopefully things work out for you soon ... we look forward to inviting you to the community.
 
epi

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