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Honda Civic GX (CNG powered; natural gas) by aaaedgarpoe
Sep 19, 2004 (1:03 am)
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CNG seems a ‘no-brainer.’ So why is there so limited a selection of autos? If the Civic has side head air bags, I’d get one today. It appears none of the CNG vehicles on the market has side head air bags.
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Part 2 by aaaedgarpoe
Sep 19, 2004 (1:04 am)
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There seems to be a good number of CNG fueling stations (especially in Southern California), CNG is significantly cheaper than gas and diesel fuel (more miles per US dollar), produces nearly no harmful fumes or pollutants, 92% of natural gas is domestically produced (6% from Canada), is safer than gasoline (less able to catch fire in an accident), there appears to be a very large domestic supply of natural gas for a minimum of 60 years, is possible to refuel at home (soon the Civic GX will have that capability), and the price of natural gas is more stable than gasoline.
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marketing 101 by blueiedgod
Sep 20, 2004 (6:01 pm)
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demand creates market. Since GX's have not been selling well, Honda has not been producing alot of them. If people start buying them, Honda will make more.
 
I have to disagree about the safety in collision of a CNG powered vehicle. Yes, the fuel tank is more robust, but if it broke in collision, natural gas is more readily combustible than gasoline.
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by robertsmx
Sep 20, 2004 (6:17 pm)
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If you're looking for Civic GX, Honda recently announced retail sales of the model...
 
Retail sales of Civic GX and Phill(TM) home refueling system to begin in Spring 2005
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Fire and Phill by aaaedgarpoe
Sep 20, 2004 (11:57 pm)
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Read that natural gas only combusts if it has between a 4 and 14% concentration with air.
 
It was the Phill that initially got me interested in CNG cars.
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another view by blueiedgod
Sep 21, 2004 (5:15 am)
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I am not sure of the current GX, but the previous generation was capable of running on both natural gas and gasoline with a flick of a switch. So, lack of refueling stations was not of a concern as one would fill up with gasoline when CNG ran out, until one reached a CNG station.
 
Although, CNG is not really a renewable source, I am pretty sure that CNG Civic can run on Methane as well, which can be produced from waste. Just like Ethanol, Methane is a biologically renewable source of energy, and are by products of basterial digestion.
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What previous generation? by isellhondas
Oct 14, 2004 (7:26 pm)
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Not Honda anyway. These were designed for fleet usage and they have been flops for the most part.
 
Who knows, maybe something will change?
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Re: What previous generation? [isellhondas] by blueiedgod
Oct 15, 2004 (4:18 am)
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Replying to: isellhondas (Oct 14, 2004 7:26 pm)

The 1996-2000 Honda Civic had a GX. I have seen them offered for public sale at some dealerships.
 
Now if Honda started offering Diesels in the US, they would have me as a customer. And I don't want an Izuzu diesel, like they have in Europe. It would be nice to have a Honda developed diesel, then I can run it on used frying oil. http://www.greasecar.com/ The only side effect is that people behind me get an unexplained carving for french (freedom) fries.
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O.K. by isellhondas
Oct 15, 2004 (5:55 am)
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I know what you mean, they did build a few of these. Our store never sold any.
 
Who knows what the future may bring?
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A compressed natural gas car? by john500
Oct 15, 2004 (10:07 am)
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If you are going to store a flammable compressed gas, the most logical step would be the route of BMW and go directly for hydrogen powered vehicles (zero greenhouse emissions and circumvent the fuel cell). There was a big movement in the 1990's to convert house power from electric to natural gas for cost savings. Ten to twenty years later, the cost differential between natural gas and electric has dropped considerably to power a hot water heater. The same price-stucture phenomenon would occur if natural gas cars came to market. The progression of vehicles shoul go:
1. smaller displacement engines with less vehicle weight
2. gas-electric hybrid vehicles (2007)
3. gas-diesel or diesel-like hybrid vehicles (2009)

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