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June 2008 Consumer Reports by lhanson
Jun 01, 2008 (2:55 pm)
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What is it with Consumer Reports and their bad mouthing of the Yaris? Does anyone here (even Backy) believe, in the Subcompact Class, that a Honda Fit Sport MT rates a 75 on a 100 point scale and the Toyota Yaris hatchback MT rates a 36, tied for last with a Chevrolet Aveo LT? It is noted that the Edmunds consumer ratings on a 10 point scale has the Yaris at 9.4 and the Aveo at 8.9 which might be slightly biased on the high side because no one wants to admit that they have made a poor choice for their car.
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Re: June 2008 Consumer Reports [lhanson] by ttai
Jun 01, 2008 (6:26 pm)
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Replying to: lhanson (Jun 01, 2008 2:55 pm)

Consumer Reports is such a joke. The Yaris Hatchback is 2 seconds quicker to 60 than the Fit. The Yaris gets better gas mileage, is more comfortable, and stops better. The Fit goes around corners better because the springs are stiffer. I bet they took 50 points off for the center speedo. I saw a Fit going down the road again and am glad I didn't get one. It looks like a tiny Honda minivan.
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Re: June 2008 Consumer Reports [lhanson] by backy
Jun 02, 2008 (1:12 am)
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Replying to: lhanson (Jun 01, 2008 2:55 pm)

Who really cares? The important thing is that YOU like your car and it's the right car for you. Every reviewer will apply their own criteria. For the criteria CR used to rate the Yaris, I don't have a problem with how they scored it. CR never rated any of my current cars very high, but I like them. If you want to know why CR rated the Yaris so low, just read the review--they are pretty clear on what they think its shortcomings are.
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Re: June 2008 Consumer Reports [backy] by lhanson
Jun 02, 2008 (4:00 am)
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Replying to: backy (Jun 02, 2008 1:12 am)

I guess you are right. Crash ratings are number 1 with you. Low Price, high MPG, and dependibility are number 1 with me. Therefore, Yaris is a better fit for me.
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Re: Owner's Manual? [dake] by jgas
Jun 02, 2008 (8:53 am)
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Replying to: dake (Apr 21, 2008 8:17 am)

Your car should have come with the regular thicker Owner's Manual. I lost my copy the day after I bought the car last week. It can be replaced by calling a Toyota dealer parts dept. The problem is that it sounds like they may be on back order. The Prius and Yaris books are both on back order according to the person I talked to. He sounded so negative about it he didn't even take my order. Other dealers I talked to may not have been ordering them recently because they both were happy to place the order if I wanted one. It costs about $20 and comes from the east coast somewhere. Maybe the original parts guy just didn't want to be bothered. I don't know yet. I'm going to look around one more time before I order one.
 
On toyotaowners.com you can download part of it. You have to register first. It is painless and free.
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Re: Owner's Manual? [jgas] by jgas
Jun 02, 2008 (9:11 am)
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Replying to: jgas (Jun 02, 2008 8:53 am)

I just got the answer on how to get an owner's manual for your 2008 Yaris. The main Toyota publications number is: 1-800-622-2033. The book is $15.95 plus tax and shipping. I'm still going to look around my house one more time before I order it.
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Re: June 2008 Consumer Reports [lhanson] by backy
Jun 03, 2008 (6:53 am)
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Replying to: lhanson (Jun 02, 2008 4:00 am)

Actually all those attributes you mentioned are important to me. But there are others as well. Also, I wonder if CR's test scores on the Yaris would have been different had they tested a loaded Yaris hatch with ABS and other options. I think they tested a pretty basic car. They don't take price into account in their rankings, except to group cars into general classes.
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Re: June 2008 Consumer Reports [backy] by jacksan1
Jun 03, 2008 (7:26 am)
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Replying to: backy (Jun 03, 2008 6:53 am)

If my memory serves me right, CR tested a plain 3-door Liftback without ABS and also an ABS-equipped sedan. The price-wise, the tested Liftback was in the $12,000 range, and the sedan was in the mid-15K.
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Re: June 2008 Consumer Reports [jacksan1] by bamacar
Jun 03, 2008 (4:16 pm)
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Replying to: jacksan1 (Jun 03, 2008 7:26 am)

According to the article, they would have most liked a Yaris Sedan with Auto, ABS, Airbags, and Power Package. They thought the hatch was more spartan with far less utility than a Fit, and they didn't like the manual transmission in the sedan. Although the manual is not as slick as the Fit's, it is far better than the automatic. Nothing wrong specifically with the Yaris auto, but no small car with a small engine is ever very compatible with an auto for my liking. Even CR admitted the manual sedan went like 2 seconds quicker to 60. An auto on a subcompact is like throwing a saddle on a chihuahua. They thought the manual was stiff, but I haven't experienced any problem in 25,000 miles.
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Daytime Running Lights Not Available by irismg
Aug 06, 2008 (10:21 am)
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Well, I turned in my Yaris sedan rental car on Monday afternoon. I have to say that it was very enjoyable for the most part. It's very solidly built, doors close with a satisfying thud, the turn signal stick was sturdy and solid-feeling. The plastic steering wheel is little disconcerting, but it is, at least, a quality plastic that doesn't have that cheap Chevrolet feeling to it. This goes for the cloth seats, as well; they have a nice, sturdy weave to them and aren't bedsheet-thin, again like a Chevrolet. (My '98 Corolla has spoiled me, I suppose - too used to foam-padded wheel and velour cloth seats!) For it to be the smallest Toyota, it really is about the same size as my '98 Corolla in length, and even bigger than mine in interior room. The one I rented was a beautiful medium blue color. And, it's actually very handsome and well-proportioned, not at all like the hideous 3-door model which looks as if it weren't finished yet. I like that it has height adjusters for the seat - perfect for me who, although I'm tall, I don't like to sit too low. Unfortunately, I never reset the trip meter, thinking they'd need that to record how many miles I put on the car while I had it, so I never got to actually see what kind of gas mileage. But I drove all over town and topped it up whenever it dropped a bar. I think the mileage is perfectly acceptable, although probably not as high as some may claim.
 
There were some things I didn't like about it, such as the stupidly-placed cupholders that block the A/C vents, the speedometer that makes 35, 45, 55, and 65 mph too hard to gauge, the digital fuel gauge that's too "all-or-nothing" with each bar to be exact, and the worst offense of all, no daytime running lights. Acceleration was weird sometimes.
 
In concept, I love the car's basic simplicity; but if I were to buy one, I would insist on power windows and locks, and I would see if some kind of aftermarket DRL system could be installed. Daytimers have saved me more times than I can count, and besides that, I thought they were mandatory for all American cars built after 1997! For that matter, I'd want an aftermarket cupholder fix, too. I would want interior color something other than black, which shows all kinds of dirt and is miserable to sit on - and grip - in 108 degree heat. I'd also like analog gauges so that I could see "where I'm at, exactly" with regards to speed and fuel.
 
The car I rented is basic as can be, definitely "entry-level". It's good, comfortable basic transportation that can be dressed up a little, but not much. I'd say upgrade to Corolla if you need sunroofs and 60/40 seats, but realize you'd be buying a bigger car and bigger engine. I personally am on the fence about Corolla. I hate how it's bigger now - the size of a '98 Camry - and more expensive. $20K for a Corolla is ridiculous to me. So I'd say Yaris is plenty of car for the money, either for yourself or for your kids. If something happened to my old-timer (which shouldn't happen for a while, what with all the work I had done to it) and I had to downgrade to something more basic, I could do worse than Yaris, as long as it was the SEDAN.

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