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#1383 of 2694 Re: mileage [kneisl1] by nippononly Apr 28, 2006 (11:07 pm)
Replying to: kneisl1 (Apr 28, 2006 5:18 am) I know! That is the risk. Question is, how do I do a proper mileage test? I would need to have one for a week or so, and they are not available for rental.   But foober saying his initial results are 38 mpg is encouraging. I forget if he has a stick or auto, but if it's an auto, then I would actually expect my mileage to be a bit better, so no prob.   I could handle going from 40 mpg to 38 mpg if it meant I could get the singularly cute looks and significantly nicer interior (vs the Echo) of the Yaris.   Oh, 1 last thing to iluv: No, the liftback does not have a tach. Not even in cars with a manual, a power package, whatever else you want to toss in there. No tachs in Yaris liftbacks, period. And yes, that does not please me. But for your peace of mind, all manual shift sedans get a tach, and even automatic cars if they are equipped with the power package. Replies to this message: mackabee (Apr 29, 2006 3:50 pm) reddroverr (Apr 29, 2006 4:57 pm)
#1384 of 2694 Re: ABS: Does It Do Anything? [bricknord] by brighterdeath Apr 29, 2006 (1:20 am)
Replying to: bricknord (Apr 26, 2006 5:16 pm) One thing people aren't taking into account, is size. ABS helps out when you're trying to maintain control. With a medium to larger car or much more so with a truck , where it's easier to lose control, ABS is invaluable. The extra time it takes to stop is balanced by the maintaining of control. With a small, or very small car, it is far easier to maintain control and ABS can be a detriment as you're not able to stop as quickly. Anyhow, the Yaris liftback is a beautiful car! It is exceptionally safe with the 6 airbags and it handles very well. I would avoid the Sedan, much of what is great about the liftback is missing from the Sedan. As for your bad experience, it might just be that you were at a car dealership. Toyota is high end, affordable so.
#1385 of 2694 Re: mileage [nippononly] by mackabee Apr 29, 2006 (3:50 pm)
Replying to: nippononly (Apr 28, 2006 11:07 pm) Where are you located? We have pleny Yaris for rental at my dealership.     Mackabee
#1386 of 2694 Re: the dealers [micweb] by mackabee Apr 29, 2006 (4:04 pm)
Replying to: micweb (Apr 28, 2006 10:10 am) Most dealerships in my are pay a flat $150.00 on any Scion plus $5.00 per accessory be it floor mats or a supercharger. On Toyotas they pay a flat $100.00 commission if the gross profit over invoice or what the dealer "owns" the car for is less than a set amount less "pack". Let me explain some of this "dealer lingo" Say for example I sell a 2007 Camry LE for full MSRP. The margin from factory invoice to MSRP is about $1800.00 now. The "dealer pack" is $400.00 so we subtract $400.00 from $1800.00 so that leaves $1400.00 commisionable gross. At 20% commission that leaves $280.00 for the sales person. Not all dealerships pay the same so it may be more or it may be less depending on the store but this is just an illustration. Now taking a Yaris or Corolla which have about $600.00 to $1000.00 markup from invoice to MSRP using my illustration above you get the idea why some salespeople are shying away from those vehicles when they can sell an FJ Cruiser for full boat and make $520.00 or more. Enjoy the weekend!                    Mackabee
#1387 of 2694 "pack" by mackabee Apr 29, 2006 (4:03 pm)
"Pack" is just another way the dealership takes money off the top to avoid paying the salespersons their due.                 Mackabee
#1388 of 2694 Re: mileage [nippononly] by reddroverr Apr 29, 2006 (4:57 pm)
Replying to: nippononly (Apr 28, 2006 11:07 pm) I think I would take my chances, personally.   40mpg for 15k miles $3 gas vs 35 mpg is a difference of $160 bucks.   How much would it cost to rent a Yaris for a week?
#1389 of 2694 Yaris Liftback: Love the car; despise the dealers by smallisgood Apr 29, 2006 (8:56 pm)
I've been searching frantically at suburban Chicago Toyota dealerships for a Yaris Liftback. I'm head over heels in love with this car and really, really want one. Just seeing one in pictures makes me smile, much as the MINI Cooper did when it debuted. It yell's, "Individual!", has handsome styling with a bit of a 'kick' to it and it's got tremendous 'smile factor' going for it. I want one with an automatic transmission, fog lights and aluminum alloy wheels (five spoke) for certain.   I was wondering, however, if other Chicago area residents (or throughout the country, for that matter) are going through hell attempting to acquire one. It appears NO DEALERS locally have anything above the base Liftback, period. One dealer I visited recently indicted they were at least taking deposits. When I questioned how long it would actually take to get the car, he kinda laughed and said (no kidding), "Your guess is as good as my own." Hardly a response I expected to hear. To be fair, the answer to that very same question at each dealership I've visited is vague. I was recently told, "About three months, and don't forget it's gotta be shipped from the West Coast after it arrives." Three months? Are they kidding?   The larger dealerships can't seem to be bothered when you say 'Yaris' after entering the showroom. One guy suggested I'd be happier in a Camry, even in base trim. Pardon me, moron, but if I wanted a Camry--which I don't--I'd have asked for it. As it stands, the sweetie and I have a 2005 Corolla and it's a nice car, but the Yaris will be for me and that's what I want. Further, I find myself shaking my head at the seemingly total lack of information salespeople have about the car. It's as though none of the dealers seem to care that the car is even available for sale (with few exceptions).   Finally, sedans are in plentiful supply and I find that I'm being 'steered' towards them aggressivley. I like the sedan; it's got a certain appeal. But my heart just isn't as enamored with it as the Liftback, so...no guys, but thanks anyway for showing it to me.   Anyone in my area with similar stories? Any advice you can share? I don't know whether to forego ordering one, taking the next available Liftback I see, or just giving up on the Yaris altogether. So far, shopping for one has been a total disappointment.
#1390 of 2694 you could have heard by nippononly Apr 29, 2006 (10:41 pm)
my jaw hit the floor tonight: I haven't had a single moment free for the last couple of days, so I was preparing to hit the dealer tomorrow morning and test drive that manual shift liftback I saw dropped off the truck on Thursday night after closing. Just for the heck of it, I stopped by the dealership tonight to eyeball it now that it had been prepped for sale (stripped of white plastic and with wheel covers in place), and OMG! They sold it! Not only that, but they had a white automatic which I had actually driven before, and that was sitting with a 'SOLD' sign in the window too - the delivery date is tomorrow. There was a stick shift sedan in that shipment on Thursday - a white 'S' with no options, and that had already been sold too. Could it be that the sales pace for Yaris is picking up? Who knows if this was an isolated incident, but one thing seems to be a regionwide trend - the liftbacks are not staying in stock, they are selling so quickly it is hard to get in and test drive them before they are gone. The white auto I drove which is now sold has only been there a week.   Meanwhile, the sedans stay in stock longer, and of course there are a lot more of them - two facts that are related I'm sure! Maybe Toyota should shift the mix a bit and put more liftbacks out there.   mackabee: really? You rent Yarii at your dealership? The only TRAC dealer in my area hasn't put any Yarii in their fleet yet, and they already have the new RAV and new Camry for rent. Maybe they will soon, who knows. I am in northern California. Replies to this message: mackabee (Apr 30, 2006 1:17 pm)
#1391 of 2694 Re: you could have heard [nippononly] by mackabee Apr 30, 2006 (1:17 pm)
Replying to: nippononly (Apr 29, 2006 10:41 pm) Yep we rent EVERYTHING. Even Landcruisers.       Mackabee
#1392 of 2694 mackabee by nippononly Apr 30, 2006 (2:56 pm)
I'm jealous! Might be fun to rent an LC for a day, although I sure wouldn't enjoy the gas bill prior to turning it back in.   But I would definitely consider renting a Yaris for a few days just to see how living with it through all my regular errands would be. Too bad my dealer isn't as on the ball as yours.

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