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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Apr 28, 2006 12:20 pm) |
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The Edmunds reviewer ripped into the Echo - and his comments, as I learned from about 10,000 miles spent with one, were accurate. Sad, but accurate. He likes the Yaris liftback much more, and has already answered my concerns about the suspension: With the suspension stiffened by 47 percent over the Echo, the Yaris feels buttoned-down and dare we say fun on curvy roads. The suspension design is nothing earth-shattering — tried-and-true MacPherson struts up front and a torsion beam out back. But with redesigned bushings, a single upper mounting point for the front struts (rather than three as in the Echo), the firmer calibrations and a lower center of gravity, the Yaris doesn't even feel related to its wallowing forebear. There's no slop in the Yaris' handling and the revamped suspension and longer wheelbases provide a smoother ride. So there. Guess it's on my shopping list although its absurdly small and I just bought new car(s).
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Replying to: kneisl1 (Apr 28, 2006 5:18 am) you can say what you want about the echo, but it was super frugal on gas. i dont think the yaris can match it in that respect. what did the echo weigh? 2000 lbs. thats very light with the same engine.
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Replying to: kato1 (Apr 28, 2006 3:13 pm) |
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The first VW Rabbits weighed 1750 pounds. Its been downhill ever since. The Edmunds review of the ECHO was a hatchet job. The engine has no equal in any car like it. Even unlike it. The interior space is the best of any small car period. Better than many larger cars as many have attested. The ergos are superior to anything in its class also. Almost no other small car is as easy to get into and out of. Many larger ones cant hold a candle to it. The steering is VERY quick. It gets blown around on the road in high winds. Whooppee fuckin' do!
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Replying to: kneisl1 (Apr 28, 2006 3:47 pm) Do you have any figures on that one because I would love to see how an Echo compares to the Fit in terms of interior room. "The steering is VERY quick. It gets blown around on the road in high winds. Whooppee ******* do!" Many other cars with exceptionally quick steering don't get blown around the road. If they do, it's usually a sign the handling is of low standards...ultimately this can lead to safety issues. |
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My ECHO was made in 2000. About six years before the Fit came here. Assuming the Fit is as roomy inside, it took six years to get here! I drove a VW Beetle for ten years. Now THAT is a truely terrible handling car! But it was a good car too. Reliable. Good in snow. Easy to fix. The ECHO handles head and shoulders above the old Beetle. Actually its skidpad numbers are pretty good. (look them up in CD) So you are Hungarian? My grandmother was Hungarian. From Nepomoke if I am spelling it right. Ever hear of it?
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Replying to: kneisl1 (Apr 28, 2006 4:55 pm) I have not heard of Nepomoke (maybe there is an é or ö in there?), but if it is a little village that is not surprising...and depending on how old you are, your grandmother might have been born in a region no longer part of Hungary. The only reason I asked about the Echo was because I am quite familiar with the European-market Jazz and I just purchased a Fit (residing in California), and it seems much roomier than the Echo I once sat in. |
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The ECHO was the first car here in the US that was noticeably larger inside than any previous availible car. I think it was known as the Vitz in Europe and came in a hatchback too (as well as a diesel) Im sure Honda at the same time came out with its similiar car in Europe (but not in the US) Actually I wish they still made the old Civic! (1985) Thats car got 50 mpg no problem.
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Replying to: kneisl1 (Apr 28, 2006 7:27 pm) I would have considered the US-market Yaris, but since they don't have the 5-door  (yes I know, the reason is Scion xA) I didn't bother.
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