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| Here in NJ there is not a SINGLE ad for the Yaris. Nothing. I never saw one for the ECHO either. I wonder how many have been sold so far? | |
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Replying to: nippononly (Apr 27, 2006 1:26 pm)  Mackabee |
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yeah, I figured as much. It's funny though, my local dealers here (northern California) don't want much to do with Yaris, but of course LOVE the heck out of the new FJ - massive juicy profits and a waiting list a mile long for that model. Meanwhile, they seem to be able to sell Scions with ease, and perhaps the fixed-price/no-haggle system with the Scions provides the dealership and the salesperson both with better profits/commissions, eh? All I know is, lots of Scions are going out the doors, and the xA/xB are all over the place around here. I have checked out Yaris in two places now - the first one, the salesman didn't know anything about it, although pretended he did, and after the test drive let me know that I could have "that car over there" for about the same money with more features. The tone of his voice was eager. The "car over there" was a Scion xA. The second place I went to, I finally got to drive a hatch. But when I asked to drive it, the initial response from the salesman was "you want to drive that??". He had come over with a big smile on his face. Why? Because the Yaris was parked right next to an FJ Cruiser, and he had thought I was admiring that one, NOT the Yaris! The smile faded, we took a quick ride in the hatch during which he displayed unhappy faces most of the time. When we got back, he disappeared without a trace. He really didn't care if he sold that Yaris or not. No money in it for him, I guess. It is so hard finding dealerships that treat customers both professionally and also in a friendly manner. If you are lucky, you get one or the other, but very rarely both.
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Replying to: nippononly (Apr 27, 2006 8:10 pm) Anyway, the dealer didn't even have one in stock at that time. If he had, I probably would have driven and bought. Got out of the mood later when he got one in. If the new Scion looks more like the Yaris, I may pull the trigger. |
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Yup, I like the looks of the Yaris much more than those of the xA too. And, gulp - uh oh! I was driving home and noticed the truck had just dropped off a bunch of cars at the local dealer, so I slowed down and lo and behold! One of the cars he dropped off was a Yaris hatch, stick shift, with convenience package! Meteorite metallic for the color. I stopped and had a quick walk around it, and I have to say I like its looks more every time I see it. The sticker on this car is $12,3 and it has all the floor mats and even a first aid kit apparently. I will have to go drive it tomorrow - it's the first Yaris in the right style (hatch) with the right transmission (stick) I have seen in person. I figure I can get it out the door after all fees for around $13,2 tops, hopefully. But while that sounds like I am dead set on buying, questions do nag: what about ABS and side airbags - should I wait and order one later on that has those in addition to the convenience package? alloys - I want 'em. Again, I am sure I would have to order a car so equipped, or maybe I could try to swing a deal to order a set through the parts department and include it in the initial sale, something which I am sure would wind up costing more than they would be as an option from the factory (but would be quicker than waiting for a special order car). cruise - I want it. I know now that the sedan has available factory cruise for the stick shift, and that has the same powertrain and steering wheel, so why couldn't the dealer service department install it in the liftback? Again, I would be ordering the cruise control unit through parts, I guess. I am sure the alloys and cruise would be expensive if equipped on the car after the factory this way. And I am sure that dealers are going to be reluctant to take my order for a custom-equipped car that includes the ABS and side airbags. So the question for myself becomes, how important are all those things to me? I will ask about the cost of alloys and cruise tomorrow, and see if they can even answer my question in a definite way. |
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| Nippononly Im thinking you better do a mileage test drive of the Yaris before you buy it. How are you gonna feel if your new Yaris only gets 36 mpg after the ECHO getting 41? | |
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Hey out there, I recently checked the US Yaris website and now it allows a power package option in my area (NY). This was not available when I was at the site a couple of days ago. Anyone have any inside info on whether they are going to continue the trend and add more option combos (and maybe alloy wheels) to the east coast cache of Yaris liftbacks? 
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Replying to: mackabee (Apr 27, 2006 6:08 pm)
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Replying to: mackabee (Apr 27, 2006 6:08 pm) Salespeople earn a minimum commission on these cars based on the low margin from invoice to MSRP. It does not matter whether the car is sold at invoice or MSRP it is still a "mini" deal hence lots of unprofessional salespersons will try to "steer" you towards bigger cars with bigger profit margins. I ran into that yesterday when I stopped to look at the Yaris lift-back. The salesman told me it wasn't good for anything but city driving, I shouldn't take it to Tahoe. A Corolla would be much better. This was a barebones liftback for about $10,900 (although they seem to come standard with aircon).
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I was walking by a local Toyota dealer and saw my first liftback; this was the same dealership where is mistook a Yaris Sedan for a Corolla. While the Sedan had left me with a "who cares" impression (it's nice, but it's almost an identical twin to a Corolla), the liftback stole my heart away right away. The exterior completely shows the French design studio input. It is quirky, has personality, is totally different from the Suzuki Swift/Chevy Metro "cheap mobiles" of days gone by. It's something Apple might have designed, if they did cars; or what we might have hoped for from SMART. The interior isn't as nice. The center stack, is ok, but a little anemic; the window cranks were generic "off the shelf" parts with no customization. The seat fabric, on the other hand, was much nicer than expected - richer than the utilitarian Fit seat fabric, and similar to Scion xA materials. The cargo area is slightly bigger than the xA. The cargo cover is MUCH better - not just a roll-top. There is almost more storage UNDER the trunk floor than in the actual xA trunk. The Jack Benny in me was drooling over the sub $11,000 price - with aircon. I think I could live without the razor sharp reflexes of the Fit. The reviewers say the Yaris is more comfortable than the Fit anyway. On the other hand, is it stable on the freeway? The xA was rock solid, with its stiff suspension, but my Echo was dangerously tippy and wallowy. |
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