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Replying to: kneisl1 (Apr 27, 2006 7:28 am) Traffic...sheesh...in the mornings I'm pretty good, 4:30am and it is running even if heavy....but in the afternoons it can easily take me 1 1/2 hours to go less than 30 miles. I won't even talk about Friday  might as well wait til Saturday or just not go in at all!
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Replying to: kneisl1 (Apr 27, 2006 5:59 am) |
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Replying to: nippononly (Apr 26, 2006 9:46 pm)
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| What drugs are you on? They must be good! | |
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Replying to: kneisl1 (Apr 27, 2006 5:59 am) My problem with ABS is that I live in an area (southeast Michigan) that ends up with a LOT of icy roads in the winter. ABS has been proven to drastically lengthen stopping distances in icy conditions, so it's not a good choice for this area. ABS senses tire lockup, then releases the brakes until the tire rolls again, then applies brake pressure again. If you don't have traction (such as on icy roads) then the brakes lock up, the ABS computer releases the brakes, and waits for the tires to roll again, which happens much more slowly, if at all, because of the low traction situation. Basically, the ABS computer freewheels the brakes...You're standing on the pedal, and nothing is happening. It can also happen on oil-slicked roads or fresh-graded gravel roads. A good driver who knows how to threshold brake can stop much shorter than an ABS system in extremely low traction situations. I would also like to see ABS as an option on cars, rather than a "package deal" or standard feature. |
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Replying to: nvarch1 (Apr 27, 2006 11:24 am) But thanks for the info, that's good. I don't much look forward to placing an order with a dealer - I know the Toyota dealers are very resistant to this, in part because they can't make an iron-clad guarantee that the car will ever be built. Plus, I would like a bit off MSRP, which I am hoping would be possible in a purchase from dealer stock after the first few months are past. But on an order, I am not sure they would be too pleased to discount MSRP. If I go the order route (I am not doing anything for a while yet anyway), I may order through Longo in the LA area - it is the biggest dealership here in California, and I believe they have some clout with the factory. Dealers in my area have been turning over Scions with great regularity - I would think they would see the sales success of those models and pay more attention to the Yaris now, especially with the gas so expensive. Instead, it is being shunned. 
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Replying to: chrisducati (Apr 26, 2006 3:52 pm) I just caught the tail end of a Yaris commercial during "Will & Grace" that showed both the sedan and the hatchback. So the answer is YES, Toyota is making some attempt to advertise this car. I think if they actually had some hatchbacks on the lots that we could test drive (nothing here in South Florida), this neat little car might not suffer the same fate that the Echo did. |
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| Here in NJ there is not a SINGLE ad for the Yaris. Nothing. I never saw one for the ECHO either. I wonder how many have been sold so far? | |
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Replying to: nippononly (Apr 27, 2006 1:26 pm) Mackabee |
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yeah, I figured as much. It's funny though, my local dealers here (northern California) don't want much to do with Yaris, but of course LOVE the heck out of the new FJ - massive juicy profits and a waiting list a mile long for that model. Meanwhile, they seem to be able to sell Scions with ease, and perhaps the fixed-price/no-haggle system with the Scions provides the dealership and the salesperson both with better profits/commissions, eh? All I know is, lots of Scions are going out the doors, and the xA/xB are all over the place around here. I have checked out Yaris in two places now - the first one, the salesman didn't know anything about it, although pretended he did, and after the test drive let me know that I could have "that car over there" for about the same money with more features. The tone of his voice was eager. The "car over there" was a Scion xA. The second place I went to, I finally got to drive a hatch. But when I asked to drive it, the initial response from the salesman was "you want to drive that??". He had come over with a big smile on his face. Why? Because the Yaris was parked right next to an FJ Cruiser, and he had thought I was admiring that one, NOT the Yaris! The smile faded, we took a quick ride in the hatch during which he displayed unhappy faces most of the time. When we got back, he disappeared without a trace. He really didn't care if he sold that Yaris or not. No money in it for him, I guess. It is so hard finding dealerships that treat customers both professionally and also in a friendly manner. If you are lucky, you get one or the other, but very rarely both.
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