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Replying to: kneisl1 (Apr 26, 2006 7:47 pm) |
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are definitely looking down their noses at the liftbacks, which mostly carry lower sticker prices, which (I would guess) are less profitable for them. BUT the real problem is that very few Yarii, even the sedans, are being sold. The dealers are just AWASH in Corollas, now with national cash back, and still basing at around $14,7 for CEs with no options. So the Yarii just sit and sit.  My local dealer has the same two he had three weeks ago, or whenever that was that they started coming in to dealers. Both are automatic sedans, one S and one base model. I pull 40 mpg in everyday driving in my Echo (stick shift), have been tracking the mileage very closely for the last few months to come up with that average. I got 46 mpg without trying in the one highway trip I did in it a couple months back. One of the things I have wondered is whether the Yaris would do as well. I kinda think not, but maybe. I don't know about anyone else here, but I much prefer the interior of the liftback to that of the sedan. For one thing, I prefer the center stack where the three HVAC controls are stacked vertically, rather than the triangular configuration in the sedan. I also prefer the cloth inserts which cover the doors all the way up to the window sills, where the sedan gets hard plastic there. If you are a fan of the passive safety features, I think you would be crazy not to take a very close look at the xA, especially if you like the Yaris hatch. For $14K flat, you can get a manual with the side airbags/curtains (and of course, all the other stuff like power package, etc), and it comes standard with ABS. Not to mention a pretty good stereo with face-level tweeters, something you CAN'T get from the factory in a Yaris. Me, I would like a Yaris hatch with the convenience package (and maybe the extra airbags and ABS as stand-alones? I am not sure). I figure I could get that exact car (in a stick) for $1200-1500 less than the xA. The power package, I could not care less about. I much prefer the styling of the Yaris to the xA, outside and in. dhill4: can you tell me, how did you place the order - over the internet, or in person? Was the dealership resistant to taking a special order, and did you have to put down a deposit? If so, was it refundable? Thing is, I wouldn't mind placing an order and waiting six months, as long as I knew that I could get the exact car I wanted, and that they wouldn't just waste my time and come back with "sorry, the car you ordered was unavailable" six months down the line. That would be irritating.
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Replying to: bricknord (Apr 26, 2006 5:16 pm) My Yaris is the best car that I have ever owned. It is white with alloy wheels (also part of the power package). Everyone asks me about it, especially at the car wash. It is a unique car, unlike the Corolla, which is a dime-a-dozen. I am tired of people bad-mouthing this car. Drive one and you will see what a tight, solid, well made Japanese car it is.
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Replying to: bruyere (Apr 26, 2006 10:42 pm)  My husband has been on various deployments. Before a deployment he has to take a defensive driving course. He's done this many times now. You go and crash cars and learn how to run other's off the road....you skid around and do 180s and such and he said that he would not drive a car without ABS if he doesn't have too. He said with as much knowledge as he has at driving and with as much practice he's had he cannot control a vehicle as well in certain instances and that is when ABS comes in handy. For him he said it just makes it easier... I haven't take this course but I do no other folks who have and they all agree. So I encourage those who do not believe...go to the tracks. The course my husband took cost a couple of thousand...and he had a week long day in/day out driving tactics in all kinds of conditions... He's taken it at least three times. It is nieve to think that just because you drive defensively you avoid getting into those situations... I would like to think that I drive defensively....but when I'm going 65 - 70mph in the left lane and some idiot pulls right in front of me from the shoulder and a dead stop and I've got people next to me so there is nothing I can do but slam on the brakes.... It wasn't my driving that caused the close-call...it was someone elses. With the amount of driving I do a year, day in and day out especially in an area where aggressive driving is the norm...I would prefer to have ABS. |
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| I have been shopping the Yaris and the Fit plus to a lesser extent the up coming Versa. So far the Toyota dealers could care less about the Yaris. Bad marketing on Toyota's part and dealers all geared to sell Avalons. I have had the same experience when we were looking at Scions. The dealers all tried to get us to buy much bigger cars. Even went as far as telling us we would not like the little cars. I had one Scion dealer walk away from me as I was talking in mid sentence because a guy in the show room was looking at a van. How rude. We ended up buying a Toyota all right but not from that dealer and not a Scion. Ended up with a matrix because there were like 15 to choose from on the lot and got a great deal on it. We are replacing our SUV soon with a small car. Since both the Yaris and Fit will have to be ordered in my area, which entails a five month wait after the order is placed, The boss of me has deemed that I wait until the Suzuki SX4 is on the lots. She seems to think AWD is important. I'll be looking back in on these discussions to see how things are going. | |
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I dont think theres any problem talking about ABS here. Sometimes the moderator interfers. Defensive driving absolutely will help you avoid problem drivers. It cant totally remove the threat, nothing can. People dont pull out in front of me when parked on the side of the freeway because I change lanes as I approach them. I just assume that sooner or later one of them is going to do exacly that. Neither do I allow people to box me in so I have no escape route. Im talking about riding my motorcycle here. I keep traffic BEHIND me. I keep to the right so the people who are really breaking the speed limit can pass. (you dont allow people to tailgate you on a motorcycle) You dont have to be agressive about it, just use common sense. I can only recall ONE time in the past 20 years when ABS might have been nice to have. (this is before ABS) I was driving on a rainy day and there were leaves all over the road. Suddenly the car in front of me apparently missed a left turn. He tried to stop and turn left at the same time. He lost control and eventually crashed into the car coming the oppposit way. Both cars were still crashing and spinning around on the road as I approached them. I had left enough room between the cars so I had time to react. I was driving slowly because of the rain and the leaves. I thought NO BRAKES SWERVE RIGHT! Luckily, as I passed them on the right for an instant there was enough room to get by. You could have slammed on the brakes with ABS and not lost control, but you wouldnt have stopped in time. Carefull driving was enough to keep me safe.
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Replying to: kneisl1 (Apr 27, 2006 5:59 am) |
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I lived in the Annapolis area back in the 70s. Even then traffic in the Baltimore/DC area was something to see. It must be incredible now! I certainly would be unable to ride a motorcycle there in very many places. You are absolutely right!
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Replying to: kneisl1 (Apr 27, 2006 7:28 am) Traffic...sheesh...in the mornings I'm pretty good, 4:30am and it is running even if heavy....but in the afternoons it can easily take me 1 1/2 hours to go less than 30 miles. I won't even talk about Friday might as well wait til Saturday or just not go in at all!
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