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The Yaris is a POS by steve333
Apr 26, 2006 (1:46 pm)
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The Yaris is a POS with Center Gauges to boot. Why would anyone want to buy one?
If you want a small car get a 2007 Chevy Aveo-much better looking inside and out.
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steve by nippononly
Apr 26, 2006 (2:05 pm)
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drive both back to back, and get back to us if you don't have your answer yet.
 
The Aveo squirms on the pavement (I am guessing because of its very cheap Korean tires, couldn't they AT LEAST have sprung for the Hankooks? Not that I am a big fan of Hankooks), has zero feedback in the steering, and has a fairly raspy little engine, not to mention a shifter that feels like a big spoon in a bowl of mushy spaghetti. Not to mention a fairly jittery ride. It is a good example of a car made to be cheap, rather than a car made to be good at a low price point. (and yes, there is a difference)
 
But I suspect you are yet another in a long and glorious line of members of the public who saw the center-mounted instruments in the Yaris (and xA, xB, Prius, and Echo before it), decided you hated them, and then went on to hate the rest of the car they were sitting in. Close?
 
kneis1: I think those ratings for the Corolla haven't changed since it came down the line in early 2002. Perhaps they are not totally accurate now. The Yaris did turn out to be the fuel champ in C&D's recent comparo, posting 36 mpg overall, despite their lead feet. The only other competitor that was anywhere close was the Fit, at 35 mpg.
 
Despite the almost identical EPA ratings for Yaris and Corolla, I would personally expect to get as much as 10% worse gas mileage in the Corolla. We are talking maybe three or four points here, not a huge difference.
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Re: mileage [kneisl1] by kato1
Apr 26, 2006 (2:06 pm)
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Replying to: kneisl1 (Apr 26, 2006 12:09 pm)

you said "Right. Theres NO WAY a car with what 30 more hp and 600-700 pounds heavier gets the same mileage."
 
sorry, but your numbers are quite a bit off:
 
yaris curb weight---2290 lbs
corolla cub weight--2530 lbs
 
so, the corolla only weighs 240 lbs more than yaris. at 126 hp, it has 20 more hp than yaris. i think with the corolla toyota struck a perfect balance between weight and power. i researched long and hard on these 2 cars before going with the corolla. there were just too many owners exceeding the epa numbers (32/41--5 speeds) with their corollas. indeed, this has been the case for me. even in 50% hwy--50% city i have yet to get less than 36 mpg. my last 3 mostly highway tanks are as follows (80-90% highway at 70-72 mph): in us gallons
 
44.3 mpg
41.6 mpg
43.8 mpg
 
i believe in purely city driving the yaris will do a bit better than the corolla (1-2 mpg), but the more highway driving done is where i think corolla really excels. im thinkin the yaris revs a little high at highway speeds, so the hwy mileage may suffer for this.
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aveo--bad joke??? by kato1
Apr 26, 2006 (2:19 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Apr 26, 2006 2:05 pm)

i cant resist. i had to chime in on the mighty aveo. note to chevy/daewoo/yugo international, etc...if you are gonna build a tiny car that rides much worse than the competition (yaris), then THERE IS ONE THING YOU MUST DO WELL!!!--GET GOOD MILEAGE. that is the main reason for your existence. the aveo fails miserably at this. the yaris achieves this (though id like to see its numbers just a tad higher) for the life of me, i cant see why anyone would even look at the aveo--well i guess they can be had cheaper?? in this case, the adage "you get what you pay for" pretty well sums up the aveo.
 
while i dont prefer the center gauge cluster, i still almost bought a yaris. ill overlook a styling quirk for the sake of quality and efficiency in the yaris.
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weight by kneisl1
Apr 26, 2006 (3:00 pm)
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   So the Corolla weighs over 500 pounds more than my ECHO. Thats 25% heavier. Hard to believe it gets the same mileage at any speed. VERY hard to believe.
  Dont pay any attention to stevetroll333.
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Re: ABS [bricknord] by dhill4
Apr 26, 2006 (3:20 pm)
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Replying to: bricknord (Apr 26, 2006 4:09 am)

abs is an option. we just ordered a hatchback, and the cost is 300 dollars for abs.
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Re: weight [kneisl1] by kato1
Apr 26, 2006 (3:41 pm)
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Replying to: kneisl1 (Apr 26, 2006 3:00 pm)

im almost certain the echo was revving higher, especially at 70 mph, than the corolla. if your rpms are at, for example, 3200 vs 2900 on the highway, theres a price to pay.
 
at any rate my mpg numbers are real, and im very methodical about keeping track of mileage. my driving habits, though, are very geared toward achieving high mileage. there are plenty of other 03-06 corolla owners with manual tranny doing as well as i.
 
still, ive read alot of account of echo owners getting some crazy highway mileage- like 45+ mpg, and close to 40 mpg in more urban settings. if i drove an echo in the exact same fashion that i drive the corolla, i would expect to do better than i do in the corolla.
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supply by chrisducati
Apr 26, 2006 (3:52 pm)
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The dealers I have talked to have told me I will have to special order the options I want. 5 month wait. They said they will only be getting cars with either the convenience pack or the power pack. Floor mats pk is the only stand alone option they are ordering. They seem to be looking down their nose at the hatchback. Has anyone even seen an advertisement for the Yaris hatchback?
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ECHO by kneisl1
Apr 26, 2006 (4:55 pm)
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My ECHO gets 40-42 mpg in the summer driving it to work, about 6 miles and 9 stoplights away. Thats about all I use it for. I once filled the tank, drove 200 miles at 60 mph, and filled it again. The mileage came to 51. Could be a fluke/mistake. I almost never drive on the highway.
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Re: The Yaris is a POS [steve333] by reddroverr
Apr 26, 2006 (5:06 pm)
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Replying to: steve333 (Apr 26, 2006 1:46 pm)

Slow day on the lot?

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