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we begin to see some Yaris liftbacks built with the optional ABS. ABS and side airbags/curtains are stand-alone options on the liftback - not in any package - so it may be necessary to order a car to get it with the ABS and bags, at least initially. Toyota has sent mixed messages on ABS in recent years - it has been standard on all the Camrys for a long time, yet it is very rare to find a Corolla built with ABS, even the ones that have the side airbags/curtains package. It is standard on the very cheap $15K base model Tacoma truck, yet on Toyota cars at the same price point, it is impossible to find? That sucks. And then of course, Toyota is TOTALLY treating the liftback as the red-headed stepchild of the Yaris line. The only liftbacks available on Toyota's "build your own" in my area are base models and those with the convenience package and nothing else. Not that build your own is the definitive predictor of what will be out there, but it doesn't bode well. The liftbacks get shorted options, which I don't like. The power package in the sedan includes cruise control, in the liftback it doesn't, despite using the same powertrain. All manual-equipped sedans get a tach, but liftbacks don't - why is that? And I'm still not quite over my surprise that in the year 2006 the only way to an $11K base price for the liftback is through deleting the rear defroster and radio - sheesh! Yet all cars get four stereo speakers - that seems silly if you are selling the car without a radio. Put the defroster and wiper back in the base car, and remove the speakers for goodness' sake. Someone who wants to buy their own stereo will want their own speakers too, which are bound to be better than the stock speakers in an $11K car. |
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Replying to: bricknord (Apr 26, 2006 4:09 am) ABS IS A STAND ALONE OPTION ON ALL MODELS OF THE YARIS. email me with any other ?'s at ataylor  obrienteam.com
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I know that ABS is theoretically a stand alone option. However in my region the build-my-toyota site offers only two option combinations (try zip code 19020). The one that has ABS also has power, convenience, cold weather packages, keyless entry, etc. None of the combinations have side air bags. I am checking 10 local dealers and all they have in stock are just these two combinations. I know I could make a custom order, but I hear it takes 3 to 5 months to get it from Japan. The point is, if I want any safety options, I either have to pay $1600 for the options I don't want or wait unreasonably long to get them. And this is not how it should be, since at $14000+ the manual Yaris hatchback is no longer a good deal. I tried hard to get it, but now I am leaning towards Honda Fit which you can get for virtually the same price and ABS & side air bags come standard.
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Replying to: realelite (Apr 26, 2006 9:18 am) |
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No, it's correct. ABS is stand-alone in the liftback. And the side airbags are a stand-alone option in all body styles and trims, so you can expect to find pretty much ZERO Yarii out there equipped with those... Theoretically, you should be able to build a Yaris liftback manual with convenience package, ABS, and side airbags, for about $13K sticker, or a little less even. There is no chance such a car will be produced and ordered for dealer stock anywhere near where I live, maybe anywhere in the U.S. Maybe I will have to go ask my nearest dealer about ordering procedures....I don't think they are going to be thrilled with me, however. |
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Replying to: nippononly (Apr 25, 2006 4:36 pm) the Yaris used 6.1L for a 100KM ride while the Corolla used 7.5L for a 100KM ride. Rather than directly convert the number to MPG look at the ratios, the Yaris gets 22% better fuel economy over the Corolla. Contrast this to the US Toyota web site which has both cars at about the same MPG. This just show the variation in results based on test methods and perhap the Yaris actually get 20% better MPG over the Corolla. |
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Right. Theres NO WAY a car with what 30 more hp and 600-700 pounds heavier gets the same mileage.
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The Yaris is a POS with Center Gauges to boot. Why would anyone want to buy one? If you want a small car get a 2007 Chevy Aveo-much better looking inside and out.
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drive both back to back, and get back to us if you don't have your answer yet. The Aveo squirms on the pavement (I am guessing because of its very cheap Korean tires, couldn't they AT LEAST have sprung for the Hankooks? Not that I am a big fan of Hankooks), has zero feedback in the steering, and has a fairly raspy little engine, not to mention a shifter that feels like a big spoon in a bowl of mushy spaghetti. Not to mention a fairly jittery ride. It is a good example of a car made to be cheap, rather than a car made to be good at a low price point. (and yes, there is a difference) But I suspect you are yet another in a long and glorious line of members of the public who saw the center-mounted instruments in the Yaris (and xA, xB, Prius, and Echo before it), decided you hated them, and then went on to hate the rest of the car they were sitting in. Close? kneis1: I think those ratings for the Corolla haven't changed since it came down the line in early 2002. Perhaps they are not totally accurate now. The Yaris did turn out to be the fuel champ in C&D's recent comparo, posting 36 mpg overall, despite their lead feet. The only other competitor that was anywhere close was the Fit, at 35 mpg. Despite the almost identical EPA ratings for Yaris and Corolla, I would personally expect to get as much as 10% worse gas mileage in the Corolla. We are talking maybe three or four points here, not a huge difference.
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Replying to: kneisl1 (Apr 26, 2006 12:09 pm) sorry, but your numbers are quite a bit off: yaris curb weight---2290 lbs corolla cub weight--2530 lbs so, the corolla only weighs 240 lbs more than yaris. at 126 hp, it has 20 more hp than yaris. i think with the corolla toyota struck a perfect balance between weight and power. i researched long and hard on these 2 cars before going with the corolla. there were just too many owners exceeding the epa numbers (32/41--5 speeds) with their corollas. indeed, this has been the case for me. even in 50% hwy--50% city i have yet to get less than 36 mpg. my last 3 mostly highway tanks are as follows (80-90% highway at 70-72 mph): in us gallons 44.3 mpg 41.6 mpg 43.8 mpg i believe in purely city driving the yaris will do a bit better than the corolla (1-2 mpg), but the more highway driving done is where i think corolla really excels. im thinkin the yaris revs a little high at highway speeds, so the hwy mileage may suffer for this. |
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