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C&D's review of the Yaris sedan by iluvmysephia1
Apr 25, 2006 (12:43 pm)
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mentions things like "velvety ride, fun shifter, agile around town and the best observed fuel economy."
 
They didn't like a few things, though.
 
They are the small amount of room in the back(duh, it's an economy 4-door, why is this even mentioned?), too much body roll(again, this is a small economy rig, not built for throwing into the twisties, who drives like that, anyway?)and the fact the the electronic power-assisted steering assisted too much(humm...only a test drive could prove this one out). They mentioned making sure you held two hands on the wheel over 55mph. Also, they disliked the center-mounted gauge cluster.
 
I test drove a 2006 Scion xA with the center gauges and got used to it pretty quick, so I don't think that's an issue with me. Price? Reasonable. Looks? Nice. I think I have my front-runner picked out for the time being. Meanwhile, my Sportage 4x4 from 2001 just blew out it's first light bulb. 5 years of ownership and one blown bulb.
 
Wow!
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Re: How is it.... [bottgers] by succabee
Apr 25, 2006 (3:41 pm)
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Replying to: bottgers (Apr 15, 2006 10:03 am)

Maybe the American ratings are not accurate.
 
If you look at the Toyota Australia website the 80KW(105hp) Yaris is rated at 6.1 kilometers per 100 liters of gas, while the Corolla, 93KW(126HP) is rated at 7.5 kilometers per 100 liters. This is a big improvement in MPG.
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Re: How is it.... [succabee] by reddroverr
Apr 25, 2006 (3:57 pm)
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Replying to: succabee (Apr 25, 2006 3:41 pm)

Can you recheck your source? Something is very wrong with those numbers.
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I think by nippononly
Apr 25, 2006 (4:36 pm)
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that's backwards: he means 6.1L/100 km (about 37 mpg) in the Yaris, and 7.5L/100 km (about 31 mpg) in the Corolla.
 
iluv: I have to say I went in expecting wobbly tracking above 55 mph and over-boosted steering - those are present to some degree in the Echo (the wobbly steering, just barely, but the overboosted steering, quite a lot). I found them to be absent in the Yaris, and was most glad that Toyota had expunged them from this model. The steering has nice weight to it and decent road feel. The C&D editros are just used to driving very expensive cars, that's all. It has become almost impossible for them to lower their hair enough to properly judge economy cars. Rather than looking at their individual critiques of each car, I found it more useful to look at the comparative stuff - where they felt one model excelled the others, and where it noticeably fell short of the others. The best way to make use of the C&D article IMO would be to note these relative strengths and shortcomings and be sure to look for them when you finally take your own test drive.
 
BTW, the sedan and the hatch feel different during the drive. I don't know why - perhaps the length and wheelbase differences? Both have better steering than the Echo, but the hatch feels more nimble than the sedan.
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I quite like my Yaris by yarisman
Apr 25, 2006 (6:38 pm)
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I have put 14,000 km on it since December; use it in driver-training and deliveries and even took it on the local race track (not an oval). It/I wasn't embarrassed in the corners, even running in a training session with Porsches and racing BMWs, as it has special rigid steel which also keeps the car extraordinarily quiet. One British writer called it a mini-Lexus.
 
I like the look of it (red in color) and it is very easy to drive - perhaps the easiest car to drive I have ever driven - although if you make driving errors, it will transmit them very directly. Small cars, small airplanes, and small boats share this feature, so driving smoothly requires a good touch at the wheel.
 
Our other car is a Saab 9-3, which feels like a tank (and accelerates like a rocket) by comparison. Another family member drives a 2.5 liter Subaru so each of our cars has very enjoyable driving features and each is quite interesting and enjoyable in its own way. Variety is the spice of life.
 
The first Yaris change I made was going with the world's best all-season tires - the Nokian WR - and I don't regret that move a bit. The Subby also has 'em.
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ABS by bricknord
Apr 26, 2006 (4:09 am)
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Hey, all. VERY interested in getting a Yaris soon. Question: When I configure my Yaris, I can easily get ABS on the sedan, but don't see it on any option package for the hatch.
 
My requirements for next car are small, hatch, manual, ABS. I can't imagine in 2006 someone skimping to save a few bucks on ABS and buying a non-ABS new car. I've been to several driving schools and events, and it is of obvious value to 99% of drivers. Anyway, seeing that this kind of thing is standard/optional on, say, a Scion xA or Honda Fit or Hyundai Accent, I can't believe it is not at least optional on a Yaris hatch.
 
What a buzzkill.
 
Anyone know if you can special order a Yaris hatch with ABS? If I'm going to be driving this car for 4-5 years, I can't see skipping it.
 
Thanks.
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ABS: Does It Do Anything? by kneisl1
Apr 26, 2006 (5:02 am)
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ABS has not caused any significant reduction in the accident rate. In fact, it is possible it is causing drivers to drive MORE agressively because they believe the car itself will keep them out of accidents. The same for skid control devices. Personally, in thirty years of driving I can only recall one instance where ABS would have been nice to have. As it was, because I was driving defensively, I didnt have an accident in spite of no ABS. If your ABS is activated, it probably means you were driving carelessly.
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Re: ABS [bricknord] by vermonter16
Apr 26, 2006 (5:02 am)
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Replying to: bricknord (Apr 26, 2006 4:09 am)

You're right. I've been looking for ABS too. I do have the brochure and it says that ABS is an option...but I think it's crummy that with the power package on the sedan it comes with it but not on the liftback. Why are they making you pay more for every little thing on the liftback? It doesn't make sense to me. I love the looks of the Yaris Liftback...but I'm going to be leaning towards the Hyundai Accent Hatchback if the MPG is decent...at least ABS and side curtains are standard on the SE model. Toyotas are reliable cars...but with this car being so small they sure haven't thought about safety...slam on the brakes on this baby at 75mph and I think there might be a problem maintaining control.
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Re: ABS: Does It Do Anything? [kneisl1] by vermonter16
Apr 26, 2006 (5:09 am)
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Replying to: kneisl1 (Apr 26, 2006 5:02 am)

I've had my ABS activate several times. In the DC area where driving can be intense (as I'm sure it is everywhere) and there are many aggressive drivers I have had countless times of going full speed and someone decides to get right in front of me while somebody gets right in front of them and I've had to slam on my brakes because nobody is going speed...I've also had instances where someone is going from a dead stop from the shoulder going right in front of me...had to slam on my brakes and go on the shoulder myself so I wouldn't hit them. In the snow it gives a lot more control. With my non-ABS car I would go to stop and would lose a little control...with ABS it is pretty much impossible. It kicks in all the time with the ice we have here during the winter.
 
As much as I love the Yaris...I don't want to be more susceptible to having an accident because it lacks decent safety features. I drive about 25,000 miles a year at least so I have lots of opportunities for accidents to happen....especially when more and more people aren't paying attention.
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ABS by realelite
Apr 26, 2006 (5:37 am)
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ABS is available for Yaris hatch. However, ABS comes bundled with convenience, power and cold weather packages (at least in Philadelphia area). Haven't seen it alone, although I would also buy it with ABS and air bags as the only options. After all, what's wrong with Toyota's packaging department? You can't get the car packaged only with what should matter the most for small cars - safety features!!! Somehow the public is being convinced that convenience and power are more important?!?!

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