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Re: lexi4life [barry42] by lexi4life
Sep 23, 2004 (1:58 pm)
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Replying to: barry42 (Sep 23, 2004 9:24 am)

I just said it was PROBABLY going to be the same mechanical components from what I've heard: they can always tune them a bit, you know.
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Diesel by 307web
Nov 04, 2004 (8:32 pm)
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Maybe they should make it a diesel since diesel doesnt fit the Scion image and wouldn't compete with the xA.
Mileage close to a Prius for thousands less.
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Is this definite? by i_luv_toyota
Nov 11, 2004 (7:10 am)
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Is the Echo gonna hang around for another generation?
 
If so, I'm very glad. It will be good to buy a subcompact Toyota and not have it be an ugly, garrish Scion!
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Re: Is this definite? [i_luv_toyota] by 307web
Nov 11, 2004 (8:57 pm)
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Replying to: i_luv_toyota (Nov 11, 2004 7:10 am)

The Echo is not good-looking. Not really any better than a Scion.
Maybe they will improve the styling for 2006.
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I don't know why but... by jojomonkeyboy
Nov 14, 2004 (9:49 pm)
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I shouldn't care about Toyota discontinuing the ECHO.
 
I purchased mine in 2003 with the thought that I'd keep it for 6 or 7 years. I'm not looking to buy a 2006 anyway, or trade my ECHO anytime soon.
 
I guess it could have an impact on servicing the vehicle, to have it discontinued, but its under warranty - so it shouldn't matter.
 
I guess it affects resell value - but I'll probably just donate my ECHO when the time is near..
 
I think its mostly an emotonal thing - no one likes to hear that the car they choose is being discontinued. It's like an admission of failure on the part of the car dealer, if the car wasn't succesfull then maybe there is a good reason for that.. and maybe you didn't make a good decision buying an ECHO.
 
I think my ECHO is great. It has the BEST gas mileage, and gas prices around me have been over $2.00/gal for a long time now. I use it to zip back and forth to work and that's it. Great commuter car ( I think).
 
Of course if you listen to the so-called experts right here on Edmunds, about what is important in a commuter car they list fuel efficiency # 7 and a good in-dash CD changer # 4.
 
http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/list/top10/102588/article.html
 
Ok whatever, but with gas prices sometimes spiking at $2.10/gal - I personally value good gas mileage more than a neat in-dash CD changer.
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by muffin_man
Nov 15, 2004 (9:43 pm)
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I'd love to see the Echo hatch come to the US. Especially with TRD support, that would be a lot of fun to drive, and get great gas mileage.
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Re: Is this definite? [307web] by i_luv_toyota
Nov 22, 2004 (11:20 am)
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Replying to: 307web (Nov 11, 2004 8:57 pm)

That's your opinion. I just find Scions, especially the xB, to be extremely ugly.
 
Even the Honda Element looks better than the xB. The tC isn't bad, though...
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2006 Echo in USA by a_l_hubcaps
Nov 29, 2004 (8:01 pm)
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There's an article about the Echo in Automotive News this week (I [ab]use my college's Lexis-Nexis subscription to read Automotive News each week ). It has quotes from Toyota execs indicating that the current Echo will be produced in small numbers through the 2005 model year, and a new Echo will be introduced in the US for 2006 (fall '05). The replacement will be offered as a sedan or a 3-door hatch, possibly with a new name.
 
So it seems clear that the USA Echo is not dying. What are some possible candidates for names? Yaris and Vitz are the obvious ones, because they are used on similar cars in other markets, but I don't particularly like either of them. My vote would be to call it the Toyota Starlet (that was a subcompact from the early '80s, if anyone remembers). I always liked that name; it sounds cute and happy like a small car's name should. Of course, they could go with Tercel, too.
 
-Andrew L
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Re: 2006 Echo in USA [a_l_hubcaps] by jojomonkeyboy
Nov 30, 2004 (9:22 pm)
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Replying to: a_l_hubcaps (Nov 29, 2004 8:01 pm)

I think Toyota made a mistake dropping the Tercel name. It had a reputation for a dependable little car. I passed a Tercel the other day - looked like 98. The car looked brand new. Of course a little old lady was driving it, and doing about 10 miles under the speed limit, but anyway, I think Toyota should have kept the Tercel, and maybe they'll bring it back.
 
My girlfriend and I looked at a Tercel when she needed a new car, but she ended up buying a Hyundai Excel. I think she bought it in 1991. What a mistake! The Excel was a total lemon and it barely made it to 60K. She'd probably still be driving the Tercel today if she'd purchased it instead of the Hyundai. The Excel was a total peice of crap! And the Hyundai dealership treated us like crap. I think the Tercel was 3K more expensive at the time, but I wish she'd got the Tercel. Hyundai cost us a million bucks in grief - at least !
 
Toyota may be able to spin a marketing gimmick off of the Tercel name - saying "IT's BACK" and all that.
 
Of course I don't think they should drop the ECHO. If, over the years it built a reputation for quality and reliability, and for holding its value, I think they'd see it build up a following.
But they need to price it a little cheaper, and one of the major drawbacks to it is the way they've priced the options - the ECHO is not a bargain. It's more expensive than the other low-end sedans to start out with, but the way they've got the options priced, a few options quickly cause the ECHO to be not such a good deal.
 
But anyway, they're going to do whatever they're going to do, and there are probably a thousand different opinions on what they should do with the ECHO - including the critics who think that styling is so so important.
 
I just wanted a commuter car with good gas mileage to get me back & forth to work, and I didn't want it to spend time in the shop, and the ECHO seemed to be the car that fit my requirements. I have over 23K on it now with no major problems.
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by carlisimo
Dec 01, 2004 (7:46 am)
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2006 Echo hatch? (called the Vitz in Japan)
 


 
Oh and jojomonkeyboy, I'd love to see the Tercel return, but I can't imagine it in modern tall-car styling.
I have a '91 at home, and well, I won't say it runs perfectly; burns oil and the overcoat is coming off so the paintjob is ugly, but those are the only problems with it despite being driven hard. It has plenty of headroom and doesn't sit as low as other cars of its age, without looking awkward like the Echo. Maybe it'd be a good Toyota alternative to the Scions, since a Tercel could look totally conservative and attract a different market.

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