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Toyota Sienna, Honda Odyssey, Car Comparisons, Van
#5501 of 5511 First Impressions
Jun 21, 2010 (10:33 am)
Well, I'm disappointed. While the 8th seat is 4" wider, per the videos, it could have been wider still - by far.
In wide mode, you end up with 2" gaps between the seats, which means stuff will fall down to the ground. They should have just made the center seat 4" wider and used wide mode all the time.
Comfort slide = Front and Center on my 2007 Sienna, except the seat appears to be 11-13" wide or so. My seat is a full 20" wide. It's still a night-and-day difference.
Any how, it is significantly better than the outgoing Ody's 8th seat and even looks better than the new Sienna's, plus no base to get tangled up in between the seats.
old Sienna > new Ody > new Sienna > old Ody
For seating arrangements.
Honda did manage to keep the outer arm rests, at least. Plus that arrangement will come on "select models", same problem with Toyota where not all models get it.
Honda added stuff Sienna's had for a while - I have puddle lights and power lumbar on my 07 LE. They also get a big rims (18", though Sienna offers 19") and ultra-wide screen to counter the swagger wagon.
I have plenty of questions...
1. Does the 2nd row tumble forward? In the video it didn't.
2. Where the spare? That model had run-flats, what about others?
3. Is the lazy susan gone, then?
4. Powertrain - HP? Trans?
Styling is subjective and would be a very low priority for me in this class, but count me in the camp that thinks the rear 1/3rd of this vehicle seems like it's falling off. The whole back of it sags. The black rear spoiler at the top/rear doesn't help - it should at least be body color.
Front view is the best. Rear is OK, if a bit bland. Again, though, who really cares. The interior looks great, but I have to see it/touch it. The Sienna looked improved but feels worse.
They still haven't hidden the sliding door seam. I guess they kept the door track low to add space to the 3rd row, but it really slices and dices the profile view.
28mpg sounds amazing, let's see when powertrain details come out.
So, mixed feelings overall. The 8th seat was crucial to me, and I wouldn't be happy with either of these, though this Ody does seem better than the new Sienna. Still, I'd get a left over or CPO 2010 Sienna to get a real, 20" wide seat instead, and pass on the bling-bling big rims and flashy but overpriced entertainment options (Toyota wants $2500 for theirs).
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#5504 of 5511 Surprise in sales...
Jul 01, 2010 (1:30 pm)
Sienna actually outsold Odyssey for the first time....ever maybe?
9,357 Siennas vs. 9,271 Odys in June.
Of course the new Ody is right around the corner, but with the price advantage on the Honda now I didn't expect that to happen.
#5505 of 5511 Re: Center seat for 11 Odyssey: 4" wider than current [berri]
Jul 23, 2010 (2:24 pm)
I will tell you that the new Odyssey looks really sharp and sleek in person. It really almost (I said almost) doesn't look like a traditional Minivan. There is just something about the way it looks in person. Comparing the Honda and Toyota I think the Sienna is a little bit 'clunky' looking in person. I hate the reclining seats in the Sienna too.
Honda vs Toyota
#5506 of 5511 New Odyssey is cool in person
Jul 23, 2010 (2:18 pm)
I think the new Odyssey looks WAY better in person than the old one. It just seems to look 'tougher' to me.
Honda vs Toyota
#5507 of 5511 Re: Center seat for 11 Odyssey: 4" wider than current [abbyrose]
Jul 24, 2010 (8:56 am)
Well the the reclining seats can't be reclined while the car is in motion. So its really not that helpful.
#5508 of 5511 Re: Center seat for 11 Odyssey: 4" wider than current [abbyrose]
Jul 24, 2010 (10:29 am)
Where were you to be fortunate enough to see one in person?