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Toyota Sienna, Honda Odyssey, Car Comparisons, Van
#5272 of 5511 Re: Few interesting facts [ateixeira]
Dec 31, 2009 (4:33 pm)
As written more than once, my 2006 Sienna LE is inferior to my 2002 Chrysler T&C LX that it replaced. I paid too much for an inferior minivan even though I paid less than Edmund's TMV for a new Sienna LE at the time I got mine. I now know that Edmund's TMV is bloated for Toyotas.
I was impressed with the 2006 Sienna LE nice front door panels, the huge cargo space behind the 3rd row seats, the attractive instrument cluster in the dark warehouse where the dealer stored his new Toyotas, and the comfortable 8 way power driver's seat.
However, my initial excitement with the Sienna wore off quickly when we realized it was inferior to the less expensive T&C LX. For $$$$ more, the Sienna did not have separately controlled temperature for the driver and front passenger which was standard on my T&C. The Sienna Trip Computer is inferior to the trip computer in the 2002 T&C. The front passenger and 2nd row seats of the location is not as accessible as was the spare tire in the T&C. The stereo and HVAC controls are not as convenient to use as those in the Chrysler....and the list goes on and on.
We did not have to place a deposit to test drive a Honda Odyssey but there was a requirement of a $ 500 deposit to get on the waiting list for a 2006 Odyssey when we bought our new 2006 Sienna. There was no waiting list for the less desireable Sienna when we were ready to buy.
#5273 of 5511 Re: Few interesting facts [toyojunk]
Jan 01, 2010 (6:02 am)
ok we get it - you do not like your sienna,,,,,,but what i cannot understand is why you simply do not sell the sienna and buy another t&c or something else?
for all your complaining you would think you might become a happier person by selling it to someone who wants it and getting something you do not feel cheated by.
#5274 of 5511 Re: Few interesting facts [islandvan]
Jan 01, 2010 (6:27 am)
Because....if he doesn't sell his "inferior" Sienna he wouldn't have anything to constantly complain about!
#5275 of 5511 Re: Few interesting facts [toyosuperior]
Jan 01, 2010 (8:31 am)
Do yourself a favor and go check out the new T&C. Cost cutting abounds. The leather is shiny and good luck finding a plastic surface that isn't hard and hollow.
Chrysler does deserve kudos for being first with some innovative features, but I wouldn't even put it in the top tier among today's minivans.
the Sienna did not have separately controlled temperature for the driver and front passenger
You'll be glad to hear the 2011 Sienna LE has not only two but THREE zone climate control. Problem solved, and now it leads in that category.
The Sienna Trip Computer
It's been improved not to mention the similar priced Odysseys don't have one at all. Remember this thread is Sienna vs. Ody. So you pointed out another Sienna advantage. Thanks.
not as accessible as was the spare tire in the T&C
Toyota offers run-flats for those who want them.
There was no waiting list for the less desireable Sienna when we were ready to buy
It was more desirable to YOU, that's where you put your hard earned money.
Now that you're looking to replace your van, and you know the Sienna LE has 3 zone climate control, I guess you'll rule out the T&C and Ody for not offering that?
I mean, that's so important to you, after all.
#5276 of 5511 Re: Few interesting facts [toyojunk]
Jan 01, 2010 (10:00 pm)
As written more than once, my 2006 Sienna LE is inferior to my 2002 Chrysler T&C LX that it replaced.
More than once yet you're posting it over and over because...why?
#5277 of 5511 Re: Few interesting facts [thegraduate]
Jan 02, 2010 (5:53 am)
Because - the number of zones in the climate control system is obviously the most important factor in minivans.
He did not realize that in 2006, but he does now. He repeats this because it is vitally important.
Clearly, the way to go today is the 2011 Sienna LE, which is the only game in town with 3-zone climate control in its price range.
I'm sure he'll buy that and not repeat the devastating mistake he made in 2006 going with fewer zones.
#5278 of 5511 Re: Few interesting facts [ateixeira]
Jan 02, 2010 (7:55 am)
Bwahahaha!!! I wish he'd just go ahead and buy the obviously superior T&C that has everything he wants.....then maybe he'd stop posting here....but then he wouldn't have anything to complain about, now, would he??? Hey, I know what....he can just go and find him another 2002 T&C that he's always longing for...I'm sure there's one in a salvage yard somewhere......
#5279 of 5511 Re: Few interesting facts [toyojunk]
Jan 02, 2010 (1:44 pm)
Dude, then just trade that Toyo Sienna junk and get yourself a T&C minivan.
It seems you work for Chrysler or something. Seriously,get real dude.
02 T&C is superior to the 04 Sienna and has a better interior.. What a joke?? Just Stop all the stupid tirade and go get another T&C. Your posts are junk just like your screen name.
I personally like the plush,comfy ride of the Sienna rather than the firm,taut Ody`s ride but these are 2 vans for 2 different buying segments and both are much more reliable than the T&C. No comparison really regarding reliability.
The 2011 Sienna has gotten good reviews and will be in high demand in it`s 1st year. I hope the new redesigned 2011 Ody comes out soon and be competitive to the Sienna. Competition is always good.I am positive that the redesigned Odyssey will have some innovative features and an agile sporty ride. Better for the buyer if there are competing vans and keeps the makers on their toes -- or else they will stagnate and go into BK like chrysler !!
#5280 of 5511 Re: Few interesting facts [deltheking]
Jan 03, 2010 (1:25 pm)
The 2002 T&C didn't even have 2nd row side windows that open. I don't think that arrived until model year 2008 or so. When I was shopping in early 2007 the Grand Caravan's windows still didn't open.
They were clearly a full generation behind when he bought his 2006. I know side curtain airbags still were not standard on the Grand Caravan even a year later. I found one for under $21k but didn't want to sacrifice safety features for the family.
Dodge caught up on features but forgot about materials quality. My brother rented one in Florida so we compared them side-by-side for a full week. No contest at all IMO. The Ody/Sienna are in a class above.
#5281 of 5511 back to discussing ody vs sienna
Jan 10, 2010 (8:46 pm)
anyone have anymore info about honday ody 2011?