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Replying to: jsseinfeld (Nov 11, 2009 5:46 am) 
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this is not a dig at the odyssey but a post i read on odyclubforums.com re the tranny probs they have had over the last few years (not sure if still a problem) and how honda handled it: http://www.odyclub.com/forums/showthread.php?s=08206c19df70c361ba568fa811c957b4&- threadid=50624&perpage=15&highlight=&pagenumber=3 the one post that said it all to me: Mojo72 Junior Member Registered: Mar 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 6 One last follow-up post to all, In June the Better Business Bureau ruled that Honda had to buy back my vehicle. At the turnover meeting Honda's representative tried to backcharge me for $1,400 worth of "above normal wear and tear" damage to the vehicle due to bug splatters on the front bumper. I assumed that this was Honda's one last stab at me for making them take back the vehicle. I refused the estimate and took it back to the BBB for a clarification ruling. Finally after another favorable ruling from the arbitrator, Honda was forced to buyback my vehicle in late August with no deductions for excessive wear and tear. Lessons learned from this whole experience: 1. Honda Odysseys' have a problem that Honda cannot and obviously will not fix. 2. Unless you stand up for your rights and use the lemon law systems, Honda will not do anything for you, no matter how many Honda's you've bought in the past and or how good of a customer you may be. 3. Honda has a dark and maybe even evil side when it comes to them loosing a battle and having to "do the right thing". My advice to all of you: If you're still eligible for a lemon law claim in your state, learn the facts about what you need to do and start doing them now. Honda has definitely proven to me that they are not willing to correct the problems with this vehicle and that they will not do anything positive for you and this problem until you make them! Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged Old Post 09-10-2009 06:14 PM Mojo72 is offline Click Here to See the Profile for Mojo72 Find more posts by Mojo72 Add Mojo72 to your buddy list |
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Replying to: jsseinfeld (Nov 10, 2009 5:38 pm) That's the trip computer I was mentioning, I love it too, especially the fuel economy read outs. 2 of our 3 vehicles have that and I miss it when I'm driving the 3rd one. You may not have noticed but you also have power 3rd row window vents (switch by your left knee), another bonus on the Sienna. I'm not sure about what's standard right now, but back in 2007 when I bought mine, the Sienna also had a tow prep package standard (I think Toyota removed that for 2008), puddle lamps, and cross bars for the roof rack. Feeling better? Another bonus - your front seat folds flat. The 3rd row can be positioned for tailgate seating, with the kids facing out. The 2nd row tumbles forward, too. So you do get some nice extras. The Ody EX gets you the dual-zone climate control and I think it has a power passenger's seat. Congratulations! 
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Replying to: oddyshopper (Nov 10, 2009 11:26 pm) Active headrests were just added, so those ratings are outdated. Not to mention that's not "your family", but rather you, the driver. And...I will politely remind you that in the IIHS side-impact tests, the Sienna does far better at protecting the 2nd row dummy, which is "your family". From IIHS: Rear passenger — Measures taken from the dummy indicate that rib fractures and/or internal organ injuries would be possible in a crash of this severity Ody is better at protecting the driver, Sienna is better at protecting the driver's family. |
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Replying to: ateixeira (Nov 11, 2009 9:24 am)
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Replying to: dgro (Nov 11, 2009 10:18 am) It's like they're playing games with us, no? Shuffling options each model year, adding this and removing that. They want to keep us guessing. 
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That got me curious so I checked out the crash details. Both of these only earn an Average score for structural integrity in the side impact tests by IIHS. Ody also drops to Average for torso protection for the child dummy in the back. The overall score is Good, but I think we can all agree there is room for improvement for both - plenty. Compare images: We should not get complacent, and instead demand that automakers continuously improve these designs.
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Replying to: ateixeira (Nov 11, 2009 10:54 am)
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Replying to: jayrider (Nov 11, 2009 11:09 am) Edit: I looked at the Entourage and Grand Caravan and neither of those have a Good rating for structural integrity in side impacts either. Let's see who can earn it first!
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Replying to: ateixeira (Nov 11, 2009 11:21 am) There should be some solutions to it, but it will be costly. Tough to work around the geometry. To my eye, it looks like increasing the floor panel integrity at the B pillar would be something they should be looking into. |
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