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Honda Odyssey vs. Toyota Sienna

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Re: Odyssey vs. Sienna - Help! [bobber1] by jsseinfeld
Nov 11, 2009 (5:46 am)
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Replying to: bobber1 (Nov 10, 2009 9:11 pm)

Just to clarify, the price difference between the Odyssey and Sienna I compared was not $4-$5K. It was actually $1700-$1800 (Odyssey EX vs Sienna LE EVP#2 with mats/door sil protector).
 
That $4K - $5K difference factored in the interest savings. The Honday Odyssey doesn't have any incentives right now on purchases, Toyota does (1.9% financing). That interest savings (obviously depending on how much you would have put down, your interest rate, etc) can save you $2500+.
 
Going back to what I was saying, I think both vehicles are nice, with both having pros/cons. For me though, it was a pretty easy choice to pick the Sienna given the price difference - including interest savings.
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Re: Odyssey vs. Sienna - Help! [jsseinfeld] by thegraduate
Nov 11, 2009 (6:16 am)
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Replying to: jsseinfeld (Nov 11, 2009 5:46 am)

Congrats on the purchase. Being an educated shopper can make finally striking a deal an exciting and satisfying thing, but if Toyota comes back and has $xxx more dollars for incentives, etc, don't sweat it. You got the van you wanted at a price you were comfortable with.
 
 
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honda tranny probs by islandvan
Nov 11, 2009 (8:37 am)
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this is not a dig at the odyssey but a post i read on odyclubforums.com re the tranny probs they have had over the last few years (not sure if still a problem) and how honda handled it:
 
  http://www.odyclub.com/forums/showthread.php?s=08206c19df70c361ba568fa811c957b4&- threadid=50624&perpage=15&highlight=&pagenumber=3
 
the one post that said it all to me:
 
Mojo72
Junior Member
 
Registered: Mar 2009
Location: Florida
Posts: 6

 
One last follow-up post to all,
 
In June the Better Business Bureau ruled that Honda had to buy back my vehicle. At the turnover meeting Honda's representative tried to backcharge me for $1,400 worth of "above normal wear and tear" damage to the vehicle due to bug splatters on the front bumper. I assumed that this was Honda's one last stab at me for making them take back the vehicle. I refused the estimate and took it back to the BBB for a clarification ruling. Finally after another favorable ruling from the arbitrator, Honda was forced to buyback my vehicle in late August with no deductions for excessive wear and tear.
 
Lessons learned from this whole experience:
 
1. Honda Odysseys' have a problem that Honda cannot and obviously will not fix.
 
2. Unless you stand up for your rights and use the lemon law systems, Honda will not do anything for you, no matter how many Honda's you've bought in the past and or how good of a customer you may be.
 
3. Honda has a dark and maybe even evil side when it comes to them loosing a battle and having to "do the right thing".
 
My advice to all of you:
 
If you're still eligible for a lemon law claim in your state, learn the facts about what you need to do and start doing them now. Honda has definitely proven to me that they are not willing to correct the problems with this vehicle and that they will not do anything positive for you and this problem until you make them!
 
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Re: Odyssey vs. Sienna - Help! [jsseinfeld] by ateixeira
Nov 11, 2009 (9:24 am)
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Replying to: jsseinfeld (Nov 10, 2009 5:38 pm)

I also like the overhead controls (temp, compass) on the LE EVP#2
 
That's the trip computer I was mentioning, I love it too, especially the fuel economy read outs. 2 of our 3 vehicles have that and I miss it when I'm driving the 3rd one.
 
You may not have noticed but you also have power 3rd row window vents (switch by your left knee), another bonus on the Sienna.
 
I'm not sure about what's standard right now, but back in 2007 when I bought mine, the Sienna also had a tow prep package standard (I think Toyota removed that for 2008), puddle lamps, and cross bars for the roof rack.
 
Feeling better? Another bonus - your front seat folds flat. The 3rd row can be positioned for tailgate seating, with the kids facing out. The 2nd row tumbles forward, too.
 
So you do get some nice extras.
 
The Ody EX gets you the dual-zone climate control and I think it has a power passenger's seat.
 
Congratulations!
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Re: Odyssey vs. Sienna - Help! [oddyshopper] by ateixeira
Nov 11, 2009 (9:31 am)
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Replying to: oddyshopper (Nov 10, 2009 11:26 pm)

In other words if three sides is good enough for you and your family.... It's the best!
 
Active headrests were just added, so those ratings are outdated. Not to mention that's not "your family", but rather you, the driver.
 
And...I will politely remind you that in the IIHS side-impact tests, the Sienna does far better at protecting the 2nd row dummy, which is "your family". From IIHS:
 
Rear passenger — Measures taken from the dummy indicate that rib fractures and/or internal organ injuries would be possible in a crash of this severity
 
Ody is better at protecting the driver, Sienna is better at protecting the driver's family.
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Re: Odyssey vs. Sienna - Help! [ateixeira] by dgro
Nov 11, 2009 (10:18 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Nov 11, 2009 9:24 am)

The Ody EX has theft deterrent system. I don't think the LE EVP#2 has that - probably an option though for more $$.
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Re: Odyssey vs. Sienna - Help! [dgro] by ateixeira
Nov 11, 2009 (10:44 am)
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Replying to: dgro (Nov 11, 2009 10:18 am)

Sienna LE had that standard in 2007, even without options packages, but again this is 2010 and that may have changed.
 
It's like they're playing games with us, no? Shuffling options each model year, adding this and removing that.
 
They want to keep us guessing.
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Room for improvement by ateixeira
Nov 11, 2009 (10:54 am)
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That got me curious so I checked out the crash details. Both of these only earn an Average score for structural integrity in the side impact tests by IIHS. Ody also drops to Average for torso protection for the child dummy in the back.
 
The overall score is Good, but I think we can all agree there is room for improvement for both - plenty.
 
Compare images:
 

 

 
We should not get complacent, and instead demand that automakers continuously improve these designs.
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Re: Room for improvement [ateixeira] by jayrider
Nov 11, 2009 (11:09 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Nov 11, 2009 10:54 am)

Expect all the crash issues to be addressed in the 2011 sienna. I don't know if honda is doing a re-do on the ody for 2011 but would expect improvements there as well.
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Re: Room for improvement [jayrider] by ateixeira
Nov 11, 2009 (11:21 am)
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Replying to: jayrider (Nov 11, 2009 11:09 am)

Hopefully, but let's not assume that. In a few cases the scores can actually go down. Not likely, but it can happen.
 
Edit: I looked at the Entourage and Grand Caravan and neither of those have a Good rating for structural integrity in side impacts either. Let's see who can earn it first!

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