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Re: Odyssey vs. Sienna - Help! [doggrandma] by dbt
Nov 06, 2009 (6:55 am)
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Replying to: doggrandma (Nov 06, 2009 6:48 am)

The reason you don't get the spare is the AWD system takes up the place of the spare on the FWD system. The redesign may change this, but it also may not have AWD anymore also. Have to wait to see.
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Re: Odyssey vs. Sienna - Help! [jsseinfeld] by ateixeira
Nov 06, 2009 (7:52 am)
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Replying to: jsseinfeld (Nov 06, 2009 6:21 am)

if the Sienna is $5K less ...
 
They say timing is everything, and right now the incentives make the Sienna the better value. At other times the Ody has been discounted more heavily.
 
You asked about financing - it probably will be extended because we're going to see the new Sienna debut at the LA Auto Show and it should come out in January or February. That's why dealers are starting to clear out the outgoing model.
 
OTOH, if you're one of those folks that has to have the latest, newest model, in mere months you'll see the new Sienna on the road and may feel some remorse. Why don't you wait to see the 2011 concept before you decide? If you hate it, easy choice. If you love it, maybe wait and sample one. Sounds like you're not in a hurry.
 
dbt: when my 2nd kid was a baby, he went in the middle, with the front-and-center seat all the way forward. Now both kids are in boosters in the outer seats, and the nanny rides between them when she's with us.
 
8 seats are great. We've taken road trips with 2 entire families, several times actually. Saves tons of gasoline!
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Re: Odyssey vs. Sienna - Help! [ateixeira] by jsseinfeld
Nov 06, 2009 (8:55 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Nov 06, 2009 7:52 am)

OTOH, if you're one of those folks that has to have the latest, newest model, in mere months you'll see the new Sienna on the road and may feel some remorse.
 
I'm not that guy. I would actually consider an 09 model if it was the right price and had what I needed.
 
I know no one knows whether there will be more/different incentives in December(can't wait too long either - my little car is about to die), but I'm just trying to get a feel if you think Toyota would extend their financing or offer something better, and if Honda may do so in December. I mean, is that common to do at end of year or is each year different and it's just too unpredictable? If I knew that Toyota would extend their financing to end of year and Honda would still offer nothing through end of year, I'd just get a Toyota now. But if there is a good chance Honda all of a sudden offers a nice rebate or low financing in December, maybe I then look at the Odyssey more. Sales tax deduction is set to end Dec 31st too, and living in NY that will save me on my taxes...so it really comes down to buying one in November or waiting it out til December. I'm leaning to just getting it now...
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Re: Odyssey vs. Sienna - Help! [jsseinfeld] by ateixeira
Nov 06, 2009 (9:01 am)
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Replying to: jsseinfeld (Nov 06, 2009 8:55 am)

I'm the same way.
 
In March I bought a 2008 Miata (no typo, 2008 purchased in 3/2009) for a fantastic price. If I'd waited another month the price dropped even more.
 
Indeed it is very unpredictable. I made the wrong call - 18 days later the rebate went from $2500 to $5000. But that is very rare. The economy had tanked, and Mazda had 2009s to sell and even 2010s on their way to dealers. So this was 2 model years back.
 
Plus, what if I had waited, but there were none left of the model I wanted? That did happen. I would have had to buy a more expensive GT model, though it would have ended up around the same price, with more content.
 
I suggest this - keep a close eye on local inventory. If there is only a couple left, buy now before they sell out and you miss the opportunity. If dealers have plenty of them, wait. It's doubtful rebates will decrease when the 2011 redesign arrives, think about it. They'll only drop in price, or stay flat.
 
So it's a risk of not getting the color/model you want, but prices are not likely to increase.
 
Good luck. Take my advice at your own risk, remember I did not get it perfect, though I am still happy that I got the model/color I liked.
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Re: Odyssey vs. Sienna - Help! [jsseinfeld] by dbt
Nov 06, 2009 (10:19 am)
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Replying to: jsseinfeld (Nov 06, 2009 8:55 am)

Juice's advice is very good. Inventory levels are a good thing to watch, but there's one other bit of information we simply cannot get to complete this, and that's production levels. If Toyota has cut production levels, but still have some inventory, they might reduce the incentive [this happened with the Ody this past summer - it was $3500 in June, and then cut back all the way (to $0) for early July, and then back up to $1250 for late July til now]. That happened though because Honda basically stopped making them, and inventories had been depleted.
 
So, you take your risks. I think Juice has it right though - check to see how many of your particular option / color combination are around, and if a lot, wait a little. If not (and you've decided you are ok with taking Sienna and not Ody), go ahead.
 
Enjoy it - you don't have to get the best possible deal to enjoy it. Just make sure you are happy with what you do.
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Re: Odyssey vs. Sienna - Help! [dbt] by ateixeira
Nov 06, 2009 (1:57 pm)
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Replying to: dbt (Nov 06, 2009 10:19 am)

Track both inventory and incentives.
 
Problem is, if incentives drop, it's already too late.
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Re: Odyssey vs. Sienna - Help! [ateixeira] by isellhondas
Nov 06, 2009 (4:39 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Nov 06, 2009 1:57 pm)

I have watched a lot of people outsmart themselves.
 
They wait for incentives to get better and they suddenly go away without warning.
 
The buyer still needs a car and ends up paying thousands of dollars more than they could have.
 
Sometimes I'll warn a customer that I think the incentives will be ending. Sometimes they listen, other times they throw the dice and lose.
 
I don't feel sorry for them when this happens. They simply outsmarted themselves.
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Re: Odyssey vs. Sienna - Help! [ateixeira] by berri
Nov 07, 2009 (1:48 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Nov 06, 2009 7:52 am)

we're going to see the new Sienna debut at the LA Auto Show
 
Is this going to be basically just a facelift and tweaking, or will it be more comprehensive in nature? What changes?
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Re: Odyssey vs. Sienna - Help! [isellhondas] by toyojunk
Nov 07, 2009 (5:53 pm)
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Replying to: isellhondas (Nov 06, 2009 4:39 pm)

Buy the Odyssey that has the most comfortable seating and best leg room for 6 passengers + the driver unless you want the most cargo space behind the 3rd row when all seats are occupied.
 
The Sienna is the best choice for people who need the most cargo space in a minivan but is a poor choice if the driver and front passenger want separately controlled temperature that is standard on all Odyssey EX models but not available on the Sienna CE or LE.
 
We still own and drive our 2006 Sienna LE that has not been as satisfactory for our needs as was our 2002 Chrysler T&C LX. The Sienna now has 31,720 actual miles on the odometer and is a fine minivan for people who have never owned an Odyssey (or a Chrysler).
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Re: Odyssey vs. Sienna - Help! [toyojunk] by deltheking
Nov 07, 2009 (7:47 pm)
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Replying to: toyojunk (Nov 07, 2009 5:53 pm)

The Sienna is the best minivan out there, irrespective of what some folks tell. The Odyssey is also a very good choice,though. Basically depends on what you like in a van.
1.If you want a smooth,comfortable,quiet,plush ride with a more powerful engine and a luxurious cabin in the XLE trim-The Sienna is your van.
2.If you want a very taut,good agility,but lots of road and tire noise and a harsh ride especially on rough roads-Odyssey is your van . If you want a driver`s car then Odyssey is better. But it is very uncomfortable for rear passengers with the noise especially on long trips.And can get tiring.
3. Also the cabin of the highest XLE trim in Sienna is outright luxurious-like the Lexus of minivans. Odyssey`s cabin is not as good.
 
Buy a Certified preowned or a used van - you can save quite a bit of money. One advice I give is unanimous-Just dont buy any Chrysler/Dodge/Nissan vans .All are crap especially the Nissan Quest which is absolutely the worst van out there.-

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