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Honda Odyssey vs. Toyota Sienna

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Re: Sienna Seating [pasodave] by minniemouse27
Oct 01, 2009 (5:51 am)
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Replying to: pasodave (Sep 30, 2009 6:02 pm)

We have two very large car seats in the outboard 2nd row seats of our 8 passenger and can easily fit an adult in the center between them (or another car seat!).
 
I don't think I would put an adult there (between the car seats) for a 10hr trip but I would think up to an hour or two would be fine.
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Re: Sienna Seating [pasodave] by ateixeira
Oct 01, 2009 (9:52 am)
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Replying to: pasodave (Sep 30, 2009 6:02 pm)

I looked it up...
 
Per C&D's specs, the Sienna's interior has:
 
1st row: 66 cubic feet
2nd row: 60 cubic feet
3rd row: 51 cubic feet
 
That's pretty darn roomy.
 
For comparison's sake, I have the Feb 08 C&D issue in front of me, and I looked at the compact SUV comparison. The roomiest 2nd row of those 9 crossovers was the Jeep Liberty's, and that has 50 cubic feet in the 2nd row.
 
So the Sienna has more room in its 3rd row than even the roomiest soft roader has in its 2nd!
 
Unless you're talking about 8 NBA players you ought to fit just fine.
 
Also for reference, Honda's 2008 brochure says it has 171.4 cubic feet of passenger space in the LX and EX, and 168.3 cubes in the EX-L and above (the small loss is probably due to a moonroof, I'm guessing).
 
That's also quite good, but the Sienna's adds up to 177 cubes so it's a tad bigger.
 
The width of the 2nd row seats in the Sienna are 22" for the outer chairs and 20" for the middle chair.
 
My office chair is exactly 20" wide and I sit in it for 8-9 hours every day.
 
I haven't measured the 3rd row, but you may want to do that, better yet take the whole gang with you to sample it in person.
 
Best of luck.
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Re: Sienna Seating [pasodave] by yatesjo
Oct 01, 2009 (10:28 am)
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Replying to: pasodave (Sep 30, 2009 6:02 pm)

The second row easily fits three child seats so I would have no problem putting 3 adults there for an extended trip (unlike the Odyssey's mother-in-law seat). I've had 3 adult men sit in the third row (one of them none too small) and they were perfectly comfortable for an in-town trip.
 
There is nothing "mini" about minivans these days. On a recent trip we visited people with 12 y/o Chrysler and 15 y/o Honda minivan. Our Sienna was significantly bigger than the Chrysler and dwarfed the Honda.
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Re: Sienna Seating [yatesjo] by minniemouse27
Oct 01, 2009 (10:34 am)
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Replying to: yatesjo (Oct 01, 2009 10:28 am)

In our case...our two outboard car seats are pretty large (a Sunshine Kids Monterey and a Britax Regent) so the center seat space is a bit smaller than if we had car seats w/ a slimmer footprint....hence why I wouldn't put an adult there for a 10hr trip (over and above the idea of them having to travel between an 8yo and 4yo for that length of time!).
 
I agree...the third seat is a "full size" seat and I have way more room there than in the back seat of our sedan (VW Jetta)!
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Re: Sienna Seating [yatesjo] by ateixeira
Oct 01, 2009 (10:36 am)
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Replying to: yatesjo (Oct 01, 2009 10:28 am)

Back then Honda was really selling a tall 5 door wagon, really.
 
In Japan they still sell 'em, I think. Found a pic - JDM Odyssey:
 
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Re: Sienna Seating [ateixeira] by yatesjo
Oct 01, 2009 (12:58 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Oct 01, 2009 10:36 am)

The old Odyssey did have seating for 7 passengers in a 2-3-2 arrangement. I think of it as an early experiment with a crossover because the rear doors swing instead of slide. CAFE has regulated away the true large station wagon so we have to settle for the more unwieldy and inefficient SUVs and crossovers.
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Re: Sienna Seating [yatesjo] by ateixeira
Oct 02, 2009 (9:10 am)
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Replying to: yatesjo (Oct 01, 2009 12:58 pm)

I'm sure manufacturers could find a loophole to categorize those as MPVs rather than cars. Look at the Venza, Crosstour, and Outback - all tall wagons basically.
 
I like the concept of the Rondo and Mazda5, but they're a tad too small. The Mazda5 really only seats 4 comfortably, as you can't get a bench for the 2nd row (in the USA). The 3rd row in both has zero legroom.
 
The JDM Ody is bigger.
 
Subaru also has an Exiga model based on the Forester that is sold in Japan and Australia only, for now. There is no LHD version so no hope for US production of that car. It's a bit small, though, here's a pic with a human for scale:
 
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Re: Sienna Seating [pasodave] by pasodave
Oct 02, 2009 (9:54 am)
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Replying to: pasodave (Sep 30, 2009 6:02 pm)

Thanks all.
Your insights and information are very helpful.
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Re: Sienna Seating [pasodave] by ateixeira
Oct 02, 2009 (10:48 am)
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Replying to: pasodave (Oct 02, 2009 9:54 am)

You're welcome. Pop in and let us know what you end up with. Best of luck in your search.
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Re: Sienna Seating [ateixeira] by yatesjo
Oct 02, 2009 (10:54 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Oct 02, 2009 9:10 am)

I suspect that the redesign work needed to make JDM cars meet EPA truck definition is prohibitive for the projected market in this country. The Crossover/SUV/Minivan is the loophole manufacturers found for selling the larger capacity vehicles.
 
There is a lot of good vehicles in the rest of the world that would be sold here if not for the over regulation of our so-called free country. SUVs would probably never taken off and we'd use less fuel as a country if only those choices were there for us.

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