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Vans & Minivans Honda Odyssey Honda Odyssey vs. Toyota Sienna
5231 messages, Last post on Dec 07, 2009 at 4:09 AM
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I thought I'd just take a moment this morning to register some dissatisfaction with my 2005 Toyota Sienna. Now- for most of my life, I have been a Toyota loyalist. My first car was a Celica that I adored. I can't even say I ran it into the ground because my sister got it at 120k drove it to 150k and sold it.... HOWEVER- I have not been too pleased with the Sienna. First- we had issues with the cooling system. We've had various mechanical issues (tailgate; back up sensors, you name it). Mechanically- it just doesn't live up to our Toyota expectations. And my chief annoyance complaint- the LOCKOUT on the Navigation and DVD. Yes- I eventually figured out how to override the lockout on the Navi- but, just look to Hertz- you press the "I agree" for liability, and then the Navi is unlocked. For the DVD it's even more problematic. My husband or I have to sit in the front seat, lean the chair all the way back so we can see the screen and handle the controls, while we're on trips. It's just ridiculous. If no passenger is there- I have to drive, and lean back and fiddle with it. Really safe..... Now- I love the comfort of the Sienna. Personally like the interior wood vs the aluminum look in the Odyssey. But not sure I would buy another until Toyota starts to listen to the consumer more.
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Replying to: ateixeira (Sep 15, 2009 9:53 am) Did you ever heard that the dealer wants you to buy the car before they tell you if you are qualified for finance or not?
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Replying to: adiehl13 (Sep 27, 2009 5:48 am) Manufacturers should use the airbag sensor in the passengers seat - if a passenger is there the Nav screen should be unlocked automatically, because it means you have a co-pilot to enter destinations. Voice commands help somewhat, but this is what all manufacturers should do. Check out the Sienna Nav threads, people have figured out ways to hack the system, involving creating a hybrid DVD yourself. I agree with your suggestion, though. They could learn from Garmin. |
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Replying to: hot2004 (Sep 27, 2009 10:51 pm) I did not have to finance, though. Rates will vary by your credit score. What I suggest is you get a rate quote before you go to the dealer, then have them match or beat it. There are also no-haggle dealers that take some pressure off, here in the Mid-Atlantic that includes Fitzmall.com and CarMax Toyota Laurel. Best of luck. |
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Just got this offer in the mail: http://experience.toyotarewardsvisa.com/ Interesting that someone was complaining about service being expensive - now you can get 5% back on any Toyota service plus 1% anywhere else. No cap at all, though. Subaru has such a program but you get 3% back no matter where you shop, though they cap it at $500/year. |
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Replying to: adiehl13 (Sep 27, 2009 5:48 am) This user just shared a fix that may also help you, if you're still looking: http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f0e6c06/178#MSG178 |
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Replying to: ateixeira (Aug 31, 2009 9:48 am) Do eight adults fit "comfortably" of is it recommended just for short trips? Where ever I saw description that said 8-passenger, I eventually got something that "indicated" 6 adults and two children. Any thoughts or advice? |
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Replying to: pasodave (Sep 30, 2009 6:02 pm) I don't think I would put an adult there (between the car seats) for a 10hr trip but I would think up to an hour or two would be fine. |
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Replying to: pasodave (Sep 30, 2009 6:02 pm) Per C&D's specs, the Sienna's interior has: 1st row: 66 cubic feet 2nd row: 60 cubic feet 3rd row: 51 cubic feet That's pretty darn roomy. For comparison's sake, I have the Feb 08 C&D issue in front of me, and I looked at the compact SUV comparison. The roomiest 2nd row of those 9 crossovers was the Jeep Liberty's, and that has 50 cubic feet in the 2nd row. So the Sienna has more room in its 3rd row than even the roomiest soft roader has in its 2nd! Unless you're talking about 8 NBA players you ought to fit just fine. Also for reference, Honda's 2008 brochure says it has 171.4 cubic feet of passenger space in the LX and EX, and 168.3 cubes in the EX-L and above (the small loss is probably due to a moonroof, I'm guessing). That's also quite good, but the Sienna's adds up to 177 cubes so it's a tad bigger. The width of the 2nd row seats in the Sienna are 22" for the outer chairs and 20" for the middle chair. My office chair is exactly 20" wide and I sit in it for 8-9 hours every day. I haven't measured the 3rd row, but you may want to do that, better yet take the whole gang with you to sample it in person. Best of luck. 
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Replying to: pasodave (Sep 30, 2009 6:02 pm) There is nothing "mini" about minivans these days. On a recent trip we visited people with 12 y/o Chrysler and 15 y/o Honda minivan. Our Sienna was significantly bigger than the Chrysler and dwarfed the Honda.
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