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Re: Few interesting facts [toyojunk] by ateixeira
Sep 25, 2009 (6:39 am)
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Replying to: toyojunk (Sep 24, 2009 8:14 pm)

Independently owned dealers set pricing for service, not Toyota.
 
Everyone knows that.
 
Manufacturers set pricing on the vans, though, and here's what you had to say 2 years ago in the "2008 Minivans" thread:
 
I agree that the Odyssey is the MOST expensive and the Sienna has the MOST power at the lowest price
 
That's quoting you, hans.
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Toyota Sienna XLE- Not Sure It's my favorite anymore by adiehl13
Sep 27, 2009 (5:48 am)
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I thought I'd just take a moment this morning to register some dissatisfaction with my 2005 Toyota Sienna. Now- for most of my life, I have been a Toyota loyalist. My first car was a Celica that I adored. I can't even say I ran it into the ground because my sister got it at 120k drove it to 150k and sold it....
 
HOWEVER- I have not been too pleased with the Sienna. First- we had issues with the cooling system. We've had various mechanical issues (tailgate; back up sensors, you name it). Mechanically- it just doesn't live up to our Toyota expectations. And my chief annoyance complaint- the LOCKOUT on the Navigation and DVD. Yes- I eventually figured out how to override the lockout on the Navi- but, just look to Hertz- you press the "I agree" for liability, and then the Navi is unlocked. For the DVD it's even more problematic. My husband or I have to sit in the front seat, lean the chair all the way back so we can see the screen and handle the controls, while we're on trips. It's just ridiculous. If no passenger is there- I have to drive, and lean back and fiddle with it. Really safe.....
 
Now- I love the comfort of the Sienna. Personally like the interior wood vs the aluminum look in the Odyssey. But not sure I would buy another until Toyota starts to listen to the consumer more.
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Re: Honda vs. Toyota at current price [ateixeira] by hot2004
Sep 27, 2009 (10:51 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Sep 15, 2009 9:53 am)

I am following this forum already some time. So I knew how to get the best price thru internet department. But when I said, I found some Toyota dealers as dishonest, I meant it. They try to trap the customer with very attractive price and want the customers at their dealership. Once the customer is at their dealership, they starts playing games with numbers or finance options (they will tell you that you are not qualified for Toyota finance with low interest rate and try to push their own finance with higher interest rate) or even will try to sell a demo car for quoted new car price.
 
Did you ever heard that the dealer wants you to buy the car before they tell you if you are qualified for finance or not?
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Re: Toyota Sienna XLE- Not Sure It's my favorite anymore [adiehl13] by ateixeira
Sep 28, 2009 (5:17 am)
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Replying to: adiehl13 (Sep 27, 2009 5:48 am)

Garmin is the same as Hertz' system, in fact you can take it our of safe mode and not have to press any button at all.
 
Manufacturers should use the airbag sensor in the passengers seat - if a passenger is there the Nav screen should be unlocked automatically, because it means you have a co-pilot to enter destinations.
 
Voice commands help somewhat, but this is what all manufacturers should do.
 
Check out the Sienna Nav threads, people have figured out ways to hack the system, involving creating a hybrid DVD yourself.
 
I agree with your suggestion, though. They could learn from Garmin.
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Re: Honda vs. Toyota at current price [hot2004] by ateixeira
Sep 28, 2009 (5:20 am)
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Replying to: hot2004 (Sep 27, 2009 10:51 pm)

I had the dealer calculate an out-the-door price, with taxes and everything, before I ever stepped foot in the dealership (DARCARS 355 Toyota, Rockville, MD). They obliged. The price was accurate to the penny. I took a cashier's check and that was that, no nonsense.
 
I did not have to finance, though. Rates will vary by your credit score. What I suggest is you get a rate quote before you go to the dealer, then have them match or beat it.
 
There are also no-haggle dealers that take some pressure off, here in the Mid-Atlantic that includes Fitzmall.com and CarMax Toyota Laurel.
 
Best of luck.
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Earn Free Service by ateixeira
Sep 28, 2009 (5:22 am)
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Just got this offer in the mail:
 
http://experience.toyotarewardsvisa.com/
 
Interesting that someone was complaining about service being expensive - now you can get 5% back on any Toyota service plus 1% anywhere else. No cap at all, though.
 
Subaru has such a program but you get 3% back no matter where you shop, though they cap it at $500/year.
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Re: Toyota Sienna XLE- Not Sure It's my favorite anymore [adiehl13] by ateixeira
Sep 29, 2009 (11:02 am)
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Replying to: adiehl13 (Sep 27, 2009 5:48 am)

And my chief annoyance complaint- the LOCKOUT on the Navigation
 
This user just shared a fix that may also help you, if you're still looking:
 
http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f0e6c06/178#MSG178
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Re: Sienna Seating [ateixeira] by pasodave
Sep 30, 2009 (6:02 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Aug 31, 2009 9:48 am)

You said you had 8 seats for adults.
Do eight adults fit "comfortably" of is it recommended just for short trips?
Where ever I saw description that said 8-passenger, I eventually got something that "indicated" 6 adults and two children.
Any thoughts or advice?
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Re: Sienna Seating [pasodave] by minniemouse27
Oct 01, 2009 (5:51 am)
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Replying to: pasodave (Sep 30, 2009 6:02 pm)

We have two very large car seats in the outboard 2nd row seats of our 8 passenger and can easily fit an adult in the center between them (or another car seat!).
 
I don't think I would put an adult there (between the car seats) for a 10hr trip but I would think up to an hour or two would be fine.
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Re: Sienna Seating [pasodave] by ateixeira
Oct 01, 2009 (9:52 am)
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Replying to: pasodave (Sep 30, 2009 6:02 pm)

I looked it up...
 
Per C&D's specs, the Sienna's interior has:
 
1st row: 66 cubic feet
2nd row: 60 cubic feet
3rd row: 51 cubic feet
 
That's pretty darn roomy.
 
For comparison's sake, I have the Feb 08 C&D issue in front of me, and I looked at the compact SUV comparison. The roomiest 2nd row of those 9 crossovers was the Jeep Liberty's, and that has 50 cubic feet in the 2nd row.
 
So the Sienna has more room in its 3rd row than even the roomiest soft roader has in its 2nd!
 
Unless you're talking about 8 NBA players you ought to fit just fine.
 
Also for reference, Honda's 2008 brochure says it has 171.4 cubic feet of passenger space in the LX and EX, and 168.3 cubes in the EX-L and above (the small loss is probably due to a moonroof, I'm guessing).
 
That's also quite good, but the Sienna's adds up to 177 cubes so it's a tad bigger.
 
The width of the 2nd row seats in the Sienna are 22" for the outer chairs and 20" for the middle chair.
 
My office chair is exactly 20" wide and I sit in it for 8-9 hours every day.
 
I haven't measured the 3rd row, but you may want to do that, better yet take the whole gang with you to sample it in person.
 
Best of luck.

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