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Toyota Sienna, Honda Odyssey, Car Comparisons, Van
#5043 of 5511 Honda vs. Toyota at current price
Sep 13, 2009 (8:34 pm)
Okay guys need your opinions. I was about to buy Odyssey EXL 2009 in June, but due to other personal priorities I was unable to purchase at that time. Then due to C4C and lower incentive, I was not interested to purchase the vehicle at much higher price. Now 2009 models are gone from my area.
So I have two choices,
a) Buy a 2010 EXL at invoice price, which is almost $4000 more than 2009 price, hence still hard to digest for me. I do not want to go to the debate of depreciation difference between 2009 & 2010, as I want to keep my van for longer duration, so year model does not matter much.
b) Buy a 2010 Sienna XLE, which is also close to invoice price, this is very close to max discount I can get for Sienna anytime, as Sienna never discounted like Odyssey.
I need to buy a van now and can’t wait any longer. What’s the right van considering current prices if I plan to keep the van for long term?
Also is it really worthy to buy Sienna XLE over LE? Some of the XLE features I really like, but seems most of them are “nice to have”. Suggestions Pls.
#5044 of 5511 Where are you finding accurate rebate info on Honda vehicles?s?
Sep 14, 2009 (3:52 am)
I see people discussing rebates on Hondas but Edmund just shows manufacturer's incentives with no detail.
I am currently talking to a dealer about an 09 Odyssey and he claims they have $2000 available in rebates.
#5045 of 5511 Re: Honda vs. Toyota at current price [hot2004]
Sep 14, 2009 (8:42 am)
I dunno, you seem to be shopping for the best deal and timing with each individual car.
In that regard, the Sienna wins.
But ... that's not how you should think. You can't change the past, so just shop for the current options, and pick the better current value today.
What are your prices on the EX-L and XLE?
The XLE has a power lift gate, which is nice, plus a trip computer. The XLE also comes with front and rear obstacle detection and memory for the driver's seat and mirrors, automatic climate control for the rear. A lot of that stuff only comes on the Ody Touring.
The Ody has the sunroof and the 7+1 seating, which the Sienna lacks (8 passenger models only come in CE and LE).
You can add EVP2 to the Toyota to get a moonroof and then you get some bonus sunshades.
You decide which features matter more to you. The seating was a biggie for me, so I got a Sienna LE 8 passenger, because XLE only seats 7. If that's enough, it does have a lot more content. I felt the cloth was nice, but I did give up the power lift gate, and I do wish I had one.
If you need 8 seats, go for the Ody. You can't combine leather and 8 seats in the Sienna.
Good luck, let us know what prices you're quoted.
#5046 of 5511 Re: Honda vs. Toyota at current price [hot2004]
Sep 14, 2009 (12:02 pm)
Just want to add that one of the important features of my wife's next van is the power sliding doors. As far as I know the Sienna LE does not have these. You have to upgrade to the XLE to get the power sliding doors. The Odyssey EX comes with the power sliding doors, but no power liftgate. Have to upgrade to EXL to get that. When we do get a van and if we get the Honda, my wife wants the EX with RES. This is a new option with the EX.
Good luck with your purchase.
#5047 of 5511 Re: Honda vs. Toyota [ateixeira]
Sep 14, 2009 (1:25 pm)
Thanks for that link, feel a bit better now. Just got second opinion on my Sienna and regular mechanic says to keep driving it, he thinks leak is very early or nonexistent could get another 10,000miles maybe before costly repair. May just trade it in for a non-van option since oldest kid is now 17 and driving on her own plus it rarely snows in Jersey now so who needs AWD. Thanks again.
#5048 of 5511 Re: Honda vs. Toyota at current price [madams1]
Sep 14, 2009 (3:29 pm)
The Sienna LE does offer power sliding doors and actually most have them with the option, at least the ones in my area do. With the Sienna you can actually get bluetooth on the LE model when the Odyssey only offers it on the higher models.
#5049 of 5511 Re: Honda vs. Toyota at current price [madams1]
Sep 14, 2009 (3:46 pm)
The LE does have dual power doors with option packages 2 and 3. I have a 2008 Sienna LE and the dual power sliding doors are a very nice option to have.
#5050 of 5511 Re: Honda vs. Toyota at current price [yatesjo]
Sep 14, 2009 (6:46 pm)
ok, thanks for clearing that up. I forgot that Toyota offers the packages. I was just looking at the base LE on this site. Guess if you were looking at the Odyssey EX, you could price out the Sienna LE with a power package that included power sliding doors and then compare the two. I would guess they are pretty close in price for similar features. When we get ready, we will drive both and see how they compare.
#5051 of 5511 Re: Honda vs. Toyota at current price [ateixeira]
Sep 14, 2009 (8:46 pm)
Thansk for response. At current price, I am more incline to Sienna as I am getting more features in Sienna XLE than Odyssey EXL at same price. The prices are at $30K+ for both vans, plus TTL. I will let you know the exact price of the van once I buy one.
I am getting DVD, JBL and much better inside look in Sienna XLE at the same price w.r.t EXL. It does not have the backup camera, but it's compensated with front & rear park assist. Moonroof does comes with XLE, part of package.
But you are not correct about memory for the driver's seat and mirrors. That's not available in XLE or part of any of it's package. It's only available in Limited version.
I also found that many Toyota dealers are dishonest, at least in my area, they just want you to be at their dealership and then they play games with numbers and finance options. I walked out from couple of dealers just for this reason, otherwise, I may had a van by now already. I have much better experience with Honda dealers.
#5052 of 5511 Re: Honda vs. Toyota at current price [madams1]
Sep 15, 2009 (9:44 am)
LE with EVP 1 has the passenger side power sliding door, EVP 2 and up has them on both sides.
My LE has power sliders on both side, and I agree with it being a key feature.
You only have to step up to the XLE if you want a power liftgate. To match that on the Ody you'll need a Touring.