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#5037 of 5511 Re: 2009 Odyssey EX-L [sporttime]
by ateixeira
Sep 10, 2009 (8:08 am)
Ask if you can get both the incentive and the low rate. Some times you get one or the other, not both.
OE DVD players are overpriced IMHO. Think about it - you get a fairly small screen for a very large price and they're not even HD or BluRay. They are a huge cash cow for manufacturers.
I went aftermarket - got a 12" screen installed for $900, and it came with 2 wireless headsets. Smaller screens were in the $600 range.
As for the warranty, you could buy a brand new one 3 times over and still spend the same amount, so I would not worry too much about that.
The Sienna is pre-wired for power even if you do not get the factory DVD. I talked to the installer and he said it was easy, at least on models without a moonroof.
The dealer offered you more than your Explorer was worth to seal the deal, I'd jump at the offer.
Too bad you missed CARS, that could have been a $4500 clunker trade, I believe.
I'd say go look at a Sienna XLE, for about the same $29k price you'd get a free power lift gate, but I doubt the Toyota dealer will match the $2000 trade offer on your Explorer, so go with the good deal on that Ody.
Good luck and keep us posted.
#5038 of 5511 Honda vs. Toyota
by acheff
Sep 10, 2009 (9:47 am)
Hi all,
Just want to warn my 2005 Sienna XLE has 70,000 miles and I am looking at a slew of repairs right now. Just paid $800 to "replace locking assembly" in passenger sliding door and they informed me that a "Transfer Case Seal" has failed and quoted me a $2000 charge to fix that. Took the door but not the transfer seal, will seek other opinions for that, but after searching this forum seeing that problem is common. Based on this, and if you drive your cars over 40,000 miles stay away from Sienna or buy the best extended warranty you can. Previously owned 2 high mileage Volvo wagons with none of these headaches and now wish I had bought Odyssey.
#5039 of 5511 Re: 2009 Odyssey EX-L [ateixeira]
by sporttime
Sep 10, 2009 (1:13 pm)
Many thanks, I tried to get in on Cash for Clunkers for the $4,500 but the dealer wouldn't budge off MSRP for the Odyssey so I passed. I tried explaining the C4C promo was a federal rebate and they were getting more than they should but they wouldn't listen so I walked. I figured I could get more now with the discount off MSRP plus the incentive plus the trade-in.
Is $29K (plus dest., taxes, DMV, etc.) for a 2009 Odyssey EX-L decent? Or is $30K for the 2009 Odyssey EX-L with DVD better? Sounds as if I should bypass the DVD model and do it on my own but it might be easier to get the DVD model at $30K than the non-DVD model at $29K.
#5040 of 5511 Re: Honda vs. Toyota [acheff]
by ateixeira
Sep 10, 2009 (1:20 pm)
Extended warranties are cheap. I got a 7/100 quote for around $780 a while back, though I'm still waiting to decide if I'll get it (no problems, knock on wood).
There was a TSB on the 04-06 doors, see if that applies to yours, if so maybe they'll cover it.
Yours must be AWD? Can't really compare that to an Ody because no AWD is offered. A Pilot, perhaps.
Good luck with the Ody.
#5041 of 5511 Re: 2009 Odyssey EX-L [sporttime]
by ateixeira
Sep 10, 2009 (1:21 pm)
I'd ask the folks in the Ody - Prices Paid threads.
They ought to be helpful.
Good luck.
#5043 of 5511 Honda vs. Toyota at current price
by hot2004
Sep 13, 2009 (9:34 pm)
Okay guys need your opinions. I was about to buy Odyssey EXL 2009 in June, but due to other personal priorities I was unable to purchase at that time. Then due to C4C and lower incentive, I was not interested to purchase the vehicle at much higher price. Now 2009 models are gone from my area.
So I have two choices,
a) Buy a 2010 EXL at invoice price, which is almost $4000 more than 2009 price, hence still hard to digest for me. I do not want to go to the debate of depreciation difference between 2009 & 2010, as I want to keep my van for longer duration, so year model does not matter much.
b) Buy a 2010 Sienna XLE, which is also close to invoice price, this is very close to max discount I can get for Sienna anytime, as Sienna never discounted like Odyssey.
I need to buy a van now and can’t wait any longer. What’s the right van considering current prices if I plan to keep the van for long term?
Also is it really worthy to buy Sienna XLE over LE? Some of the XLE features I really like, but seems most of them are “nice to have”. Suggestions Pls.
#5044 of 5511 Where are you finding accurate rebate info on Honda vehicles?s?
by dchalky
Sep 14, 2009 (4:52 am)
I see people discussing rebates on Hondas but Edmund just shows manufacturer's incentives with no detail.
I am currently talking to a dealer about an 09 Odyssey and he claims they have $2000 available in rebates.
TIA.
#5045 of 5511 Re: Honda vs. Toyota at current price [hot2004]
by ateixeira
Sep 14, 2009 (9:42 am)
I dunno, you seem to be shopping for the best deal and timing with each individual car.
In that regard, the Sienna wins.
But ... that's not how you should think. You can't change the past, so just shop for the current options, and pick the better current value today.
What are your prices on the EX-L and XLE?
The XLE has a power lift gate, which is nice, plus a trip computer. The XLE also comes with front and rear obstacle detection and memory for the driver's seat and mirrors, automatic climate control for the rear. A lot of that stuff only comes on the Ody Touring.
The Ody has the sunroof and the 7+1 seating, which the Sienna lacks (8 passenger models only come in CE and LE).
You can add EVP2 to the Toyota to get a moonroof and then you get some bonus sunshades.
You decide which features matter more to you. The seating was a biggie for me, so I got a Sienna LE 8 passenger, because XLE only seats 7. If that's enough, it does have a lot more content. I felt the cloth was nice, but I did give up the power lift gate, and I do wish I had one.
If you need 8 seats, go for the Ody. You can't combine leather and 8 seats in the Sienna.
Good luck, let us know what prices you're quoted.
#5046 of 5511 Re: Honda vs. Toyota at current price [hot2004]
by madams1
Sep 14, 2009 (1:02 pm)
Just want to add that one of the important features of my wife's next van is the power sliding doors. As far as I know the Sienna LE does not have these. You have to upgrade to the XLE to get the power sliding doors. The Odyssey EX comes with the power sliding doors, but no power liftgate. Have to upgrade to EXL to get that. When we do get a van and if we get the Honda, my wife wants the EX with RES. This is a new option with the EX.
Good luck with your purchase.