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5230 messages, Last post on Dec 06, 2009 at 7:16 AM
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There is one thing I could not understand. Why do people rate Sienna’s acceleration “sluggish”? few years ago we never dreamed of minivans having more than 200 hp and about 220 lb.-ft. Now Toyota offers 230 hp, which should be more than adequate, and it have 242 lb.-ft.  3,600 rpm, and curb weight (Limited FWD) is just 4165 Lbs. (according to Toyota). Now The Odyssey, although it has some more hp, it has just 250 lb.-ft. of torque 5000 rpm, and the curb weight (Touring) is 4630 Lbs.! (According to Honda). You should already know that lb.-ft. of torque xx rpm is more important for acceleration than horsepower. Can anybody explain me how Sienna is sluggish? I still remember (not too long ago) when the Sienna came out how everybody was impressed with the smooth power. Now because the Odyssey raised the bar to 255 hp, Siennas all of a sudden are getting "sluggish"??
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Not much difference there in price between Ody Touring w/NAV+RES and Sienna Limited w/NAV+RES. Now if Toyota can get their smart engineers to put a 6-CD changer behind the NAV screen instead of a single CD player, and give the Sienna the same Lexus NAV, but keep the price the same, it will be even more interesting.
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Replying to: samnoe (Sep 23, 2004 6:31 am) |
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Replying to: andrewtran71 (Sep 23, 2004 6:47 am)
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Replying to: andrewtran71 (Sep 23, 2004 6:47 am) |
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Replying to: doug889 (Sep 23, 2004 7:41 am) Yeah, I know. I was being sarcastic. A $25K Honda Accord has Voice Activated Navigation AND a 6-CD changer, and yet a $39K Sienna Limited has NEITHER. Instead, the Sienna has a mediocre NAV with a single cd player! By the way, I can get $4K off MSRP on the Sienna Limited w/NAV+RES in OKC. So street price right now for the Ody does not look good at all. I'm sure it's not hard for Toyota to put a decent metal chrome grille on the Sienna either. Heck, Hyundai put some serious heavy metal chrome on their $26K XG350 sedan that would put my Lexus LS400 to shame. It's not hard for Toyota; they are just not willing.
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The Ody headlights might not be HID, but boy are they big. Especially noticable when you see an '04 parked next to an "05.
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The CRV fires are being caused by the gasket that is supposed to be replaced on every Honda during oil change of the filter. It is a crush gasket that needs to be brand new every time you get a new oil filter. Honda mechanics know about this and know what to look for. Jiffy Lube guys DO NOT understand the importance of changing out the gasket. Now, every new oil filter will come with this gasket. Other lube guys will put a new gasket over the old one on the vehicle. As you drive away from Jiffy Lube with 2 gaskets on, oil will get on the exhaust and catch fire. All 9 incidents where this has happened has been traced to oil changes done elsewhere than a Honda Dealer. So that's the deal, oil on the exhaust due to 2, or more gaskets on the oil filter. Also if you change the oil yourself, wipe up any excess oil on the frame, lines, or exhaust. I watch all our mechanics change oil and they let it run down from the oil filter along a shop rag into the old oil collection bucket. Does that help. Also our 4 05 Odysseys are gone, sold at MSRP. The Toyota salesman came by to find out why Sienna sales are so slow. Sienna has got a issue now with the new Odyssey, everyone likes the nice ride and powerful engine, drive by wire and standard VSA, 3 curtain airbags, side bags, dual stage frone, ACE body structure.......and the list goes on......
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Replying to: raydahs (Sep 22, 2004 7:36 pm) |
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Congradulations on your new 05 Odyssey, they are awesome. Your wife will love it. Did the safety and performance get you? What was the clincher?
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