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Toyota Sienna, Honda Odyssey, Car Comparisons, Van
#4953 of 5511 Re: Ody EX vs Sienna LE w/EVP#2? Worth $1300 more? [scratchboat]
Aug 12, 2009 (3:53 pm)
Have also had a 2001 Odyssey basic model and have 102,000 on it. Transmission replaced at 48,000, as expected. Looking for a new used Odyssey or Sienna. Test drove two 2006s today (EXl and Limited) The Sienna gives a softer ride than the Odyssey. The Odyssey felt more on the road and handled better to me.
The Odyssey second seats slide forward to give more leg room to third seat passengers. The Sienna does not. The Sienna wood grain looks nice and the JBL is pleasant to listen to.
My nephew, who is an autobody man, has noted that in the last few years the Toyota body has been more cheaply made the the Honda. Something to think about.
I am leaning towards the Odyssey because of the ride and the because it felt sturdier.
#4954 of 5511 Re: Ody EX vs Sienna LE w/EVP#2? Worth $1300 more? [scratchboat]
Aug 14, 2009 (5:54 pm)
In the end I got a Honda Odyssey afterall - $26.5K for 2010 EX. The car was available right away - Toyota Sienna was still in "Freight" status with a cloudy ETA forecast. And the Honda dealer offered me $1,200 more for my trade so the actual transaction cost was about even! My wife liked the interior styling and fit/finish of the Honda better anyway, I was trying to convince her on the Sienna. Once availability tilted in favor of the Honda and the cost evened out we jumped on the Odyssey.
#4955 of 5511 Re: The Great Compromise [thegraduate]
Aug 14, 2009 (5:54 pm)
I hear you, grad, and full disclosure here - I also own a Miata, and that's my commuter/city car. The Sienna gets plenty of miles but they're mostly long trips, highway miles.
I guess it's just that I chose the best van for my family, not the best van for the driver. I felt that the job of a van is to provide the maximum versatility/hauling for lots of people and lots of cargo, and IMHO the Sienna best meets those needs.
I don't like large cars, to be honest, and I doubt I'd be happy driving the Ody in the city, either. I had a Subaru Tribeca for a week and even that felt awkward/too big for the city.
Back to the Sienna, though, this past week we took yet another road trip, went to the beach, and I got to use several features that you may not notice on a short test drive:
* the front passenger seat folds flat. If you drive with the kids only, this improves their view. On a trip to Florida, I took turns driving with my brother, and the other person slept in the 2nd row, feet up on the folded seat, watching a DVD. Total luxury, and something unique to the Sienna, I believe.
* hauling a few beds back and forth, the tumbling 2nd row came in handy and gets out of the way. Dodge wins here with Stow-n-go, but the Sienna at least beats the Ody in getting those seats out of your way.
* my son was in skate board camp all week, and so each day I had to put on all his pads. I did so with the 3rd row folded tailgate style, i.e. facing the rear of the van. No problem putting on his knee pads, shoes, elbow pads, write guards, helmet, etc. plus the hatch kept us in the shade in a week with 100 plus humiture (temps with humidity factored in)
To me that's what a van should do - pull all sorts of tricks to meet every need you have and even those you didn't know you had.
#4956 of 5511 Re: Opinions [yatesjo]
Aug 14, 2009 (6:02 pm)
both the Ody and Sienna showed high levels of interior quality
And they do. These are very much on par with each other. You won't get the fabric-wrapped A-pillars nor the suede headliners and wool carpets found in luxury cars, but they are definitely a step above what you'd find in a Dodge, for instance.
Compared to our Forester, the headliner in our Sienna is a nicer fabric and is nicely padded, the A-pillar has a nice texture to it, the dash itself is padded and the passenger airbag is seamless (something the Ody is missing FWIW).
To be honest with the things he said I wonder if bwires was really looking at a Sienna? Significantly slower, poor quality, huge panel gaps, horrible fit and finish, and a bouncy ride? Sounds more like a 20 year old pickup with busted shocks.
#4957 of 5511 Re: Ody EX vs Sienna LE w/EVP#2? Worth $1300 more? [scratchboat]
Aug 14, 2009 (6:07 pm)
I've seen $24.7k for the Sienna you described, but $1200 lower on the trade offer pretty much kills that deal.
I think the Ody EX also has the power hatch, no?
That Sienna would have had a trip computer, though.
The Odyssey second seats slide forward to give more leg room to third seat passengers. The Sienna does not
Not true - my Sienna's 2nd row seats all slide fore-and-aft, all 3 of them. I am absolutely certain.
#4958 of 5511 Pricing for both
Aug 15, 2009 (7:03 am)
got a quote of 29.7 for a Sienna XLE with EVP3, Tow package, floor mats, fog lamps, towing. Got 31.1 for an Odyssey EXL. No Res. With Res would be 33.1. The only way to get the sunroof on the Sienna was with EVP3, and that lumps in the DVD. The Odyssey has the backup camera, the Sienna does not.
It's so hard to compare apples to apples when their packages don't sync.
Toyota has financing incentives right now though, so I'm leaning toward that one.
#4959 of 5511 Re: Opinions [bwires]
Aug 15, 2009 (3:14 pm)
The Odyssey IS a HIGHER quality van than the Sienna - unless fake wood plastered all over the Sienna interior is a measure of higher quality.
The Odyssey resale value is much better than the Sienna (the real world Sienna resale is lower than Chrysler minivans). I know because I wanted to trade off my 2006 Sienna LE on more than one occasion and received price quotes from Toyota and Honda dealers..
The Odyssey drives MUCH better than the Sienna which is less stable on corners and in crosswinds than the Chrysler minivans.
The Odyssey seats are MUCH more comfortable than the Sienna seats.
The Odyssey has MUCH better legroom than the Sienna.
However, the Sienna has more cargo space behind the 3rd row seats than the Odyssey.
#4960 of 5511 Re: Opinions [toyojunk]
Aug 15, 2009 (7:20 pm)
Oh, boy...here we go again.... You haven't traded your 2006 lemon of a Sienna yet?? Since it's such a cheap-looking, uncomfortable, unstable vehicle......
#4961 of 5511 Re: Opinions [toyojunk]
Aug 15, 2009 (9:00 pm)
Long time no see hans.
#4962 of 5511 Re: Pricing for both [nmomof2]
Aug 16, 2009 (3:25 pm)
The tow prep package is nice, you get oil coolers so the drivetrain ought to be even more robust.