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Vans & Minivans Honda Odyssey Honda Odyssey vs. Toyota Sienna
5227 messages, Last post on Dec 05, 2009 at 5:09 AM
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Replying to: bwires (Jul 28, 2009 3:31 pm)  Seriously? Source please? Tests I've seen put the Sienna way, way ahead of the Ody in acceleration. In C&D tests it won in every single acceleration test by a wide margin and still got better observed MPG by +3mpg. And the funny thing is C&D's 0-60 is among the slower times quoted for the Sienna. I've seen as quick as 7.0 seconds to 60mph. One owner went as far as video taping an acceleration run. I thought the Ody's leather was hard, we weren't impressed. In fact 3 out of 4 people in my family voted for cloth if we'd get an Ody, and the funny thing was we liked the LX cloth, not even the EX (2007 models). The LX cloth was soft and velour-like, while the EX just seemed fuzzy and didn't look durable. Ody has plenty of strengths but you are dismissing even the obvious Sienna advantages. I'll add some more: * 1.4 seconds quicker to 60mph (C&D) * significant observed MPG advantage (also C&D) * the 3rd row can be setup for tailgate seating * power controls to vent the 3rd row windows * trip computer even on LE models * adult sized 8th seat available The 2nd row with 3 seats is much wider and can accomodate 3 adults comfortably, so anyone looking to shuttle more than 4 adults around at any time would be best served by an 8 passenger Sienna. Ody handles better while the Sienna is more isolated, but if you want a quiet van so the kids can watch movies the latter is a better choice. No van "wins in every category", it's all a matter of what your priorities are, and what matters to you. |
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Some comments on other posts above... For Nav operation, there is an override, and with the internet it doesn't take much effort to figure that out. I choose a portable Garmin, either way. Cracovian: definitely check the tires. Even if the tread isn't worn out, they may need to be replaced, depending upon their age. I have 25k on the OE Dunlops and they are not as quiet as they were when new, but not objectionably so. I'll give them another year, then replace them. As for loading DVDs, don't worry much about that. It mattered when the kids were little, but now even my 6 year old can load movies by himself. The packages are confusing but search back for an earlier post I had, where I laid out which Sienna packages were roughly equivalent to the Ody LX, EX, EX-L, etc.
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I am wondering if anyone has had this same issue. We brought all our car seats to the honda dealer to make SURE they all fit as needed. We need rear facing driver, forward facing center and booster passenger. This makes it so that on carpool days, the passenger can be pushed forward to allow the kids to climb into the 3rd row. Much to our complete shock, the middle seat in the oddysey was in no way, shape or form designed to hold a child. We have the sliimest car seat on the market and even with that in the middle-FYI there are no latches, the passenger seat cannot go forward. We then tried a booster there, same issue, the passenger seat will then not go forward. Did I miss something? That fact, along with the fact that the toyota seemed to respond quicker to accelerating and is quieter is what won us over on the sienna...though we still have yet to reach an agreement on price. I also like the way the sienna seats accordian forward...but I wish it had the floor storage like the odyssey. I guess we cannot win on all fronts!
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Replying to: karenkj (Jul 30, 2009 9:46 am) In my car we have a high back booster in the 2nd row driver's side and a VERY large (Britax Regent) car seat in the 2nd row passenger side. I can easily put an adult (using their seat belt) in the center position. It isn't the comfiest of rides (a bit squished) so I wouldn't have someone ride there on long trips...but great for getting around and I wouldn't hesitate placing a child there for long trips. My friend has TWO Britax Regents in both outboard positions and a Britax Marathon (first rear facing and now forward facing) in the second row w/ no issues at all. I'm pretty sure there are lower anchors in the center seat of the second row and am definitely sure that there is an upper anchor for a tether. We've had our Sienna for about a month now and have been very happy with it. I don't miss the floor storage at all...the well in the back behind the third row works just fine for us. FWIW...I often describe the Oddysey's "8 seater" as a 7.5 seater! 
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Hello to all the great people in the forum! I wonder if anyone could settle my mind After about 10 years with crossovers, my husband and I finally decided that our family got big enough to get minivan. Decision to get either Honda Odyssey or Toyota Sienna was a no-brainer. BUT, to decide between those two has been the worst agony so far. We have pretty harsh winters sometimes here in CT, and I am used to AWD on my Volvo so much that I feel I will not be able to handle a FWD minivan in winter by no means. At the same time, most of the people I spoke with locally - that own FWD Hondas - say they don't have any problems with them in winter. Am I just being insecure?!? Can anybody attest to any REAL difference between driving FWD Honda and AWD Toyota in winter time? This seems to be the most important decisive attribute for me… Thanks a lot in advance!
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jul 29, 2009 10:36 am) Can you share info on how to override the new Nav systems? I did some googling and could only find online tips on how to override previous generations, not the current system. My Infiniti locks out the Nav once the car is in motion and it drives me crazy, crazy enough that I might get the Honda just because of the Nav system. I had an Acura and really liked the Honda Nav system. If you don't want to post a link here, let me know and I'll send you my email address. Thanks!
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Replying to: richardnva (Jul 31, 2009 5:29 am) Too bad but an outside Sienna forum shut down recently, in fact Edmunds traffic picked up when that happened. They had a lot of documented fixes like that. For instance, did you know that getting your DRLs to work is just a matter of inserted a fuse? |
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Replying to: ylybka (Jul 30, 2009 7:28 pm) Having said that, a good set of snow tires ought to work quite well, in fact it would help either car optimize traction. Both these vans have long wheelbases, so they will be challenged when climbing a steep, slippery slope. The weight transfers to the rear axle, which is getting no power in FWD. My Sienna is FWD and slips fairly easily climing my steep driveway when it's snow covered. The VSA or whatever it's called kicks in too aggressively for my tastes and retards any momentum, but I just turn it off. The rest of the time I leave it on, but I need some slip to get all the way up the driveway. We also own a Subaru Forester and it simply POWNED the Sienna in the snow, in fact you can't even tell the ground is slippery. Huge difference. Tires could be a factor, but AWD >>> FWD when you need to climb. If you can't get snow tires, consider how often you need to climb steep slopes, and maybe ask a few friends with Odys how well they do in that specific scenario.
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juice, How've you been? It's been a while. So, I am here now because my wife and I are ready to get rid of her 2000 Jetta for a minivan. We're leaning towards the Sienna AWD but were hoping to get a few more inputs on this one. As a Subie owner, which one would satisfy?  Ken
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jul 31, 2009 9:47 am) , while mine is pretty steep. We do have a set of winter tires (from my Volvo) that are supposed to fit on Toyota (and maybe Honda as well), and YES we ALWAYS change tires into winter ones, even on my current AWD Volvo. My husband's car in FWD, and I had to drive it last winter, and I got into (thank GOD not very serious but pretty distracting) accident in it on a slippery road - even though that one had winter tires too.. I guess, that where the bulk of my insecurity stems from... Thank a lot for your insight! |
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