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#4913 of 5228 Re: Why we're going with Odyssey vs Sienna this time [andy603] by richardnva Jul 21, 2009 (8:33 am)
Replying to: andy603 (Jul 13, 2009 3:09 am) FWIW - The Odyssey run flats (Michelin PAX) only get about 12k miles before needing replacement. At $300 per tire, it's very expensive and due to the built in tire pressure monitors its very expensive to "de PAX" the van and get a different type of tire. If you switch to an Odyssey be careful about run flats. That's the main reason I'm selling mine. I didn't realize the Toyota run flats had the same problem. I guess you have to use a really soft rubber compound to soften the ride from the run flat donut device within the tire.   I agree that the lock out feature on the NAV is a real annoyance, but is good for safety reasons. I had an Acura with NAV and it can be a real distraction when driving. I see both sides, and agree that there should be a sensor in the passenger seat to override the lockout. Replies to this message: andy603 (Jul 21, 2009 9:12 am)
#4914 of 5228 NAV without DVD? by richardnva Jul 21, 2009 (8:38 am)
Can you get an Odyssey or Sienna with the Navagation package without the DVD/Entertainment package?   I haven't been to a dealership yet, and cannot determine by the option packages online. It looks like you can get DVD without NAV, but not the other way around. Is it true that once you upgrade to NAV you have to get the DVD entertainment system?   We don't go on long road trips and our typical daily commute is usually only 10-12 minutes to wherever we want to go so I don't really want to introduce the DVD factor every time we get in the car. Our current 05 Odyssey doesn't have either and I'd really like to get NAV on our new van.   Any tips here? Replies to this message: speterson1 (Jul 21, 2009 9:16 am) berri (Jul 21, 2009 5:42 pm) richardnva (Jul 22, 2009 4:52 am)
#4915 of 5228 Re: Why we're going with Odyssey vs Sienna this time [richardnva] by andy603 Jul 21, 2009 (9:12 am)
Replying to: richardnva (Jul 21, 2009 8:33 am) the fact that you have to load/unload DVDs BEHIND YOU in the Sienna totally negates the alleged safety of the locked-out NAV as well. I can't believe that the new 2010 Sienna's still have the EXACT same NAV and same DVD layout as my 2006. Why they did this I will never know, but anyone considering either a Sienna or Ody needs to actually try to USE the Nav (put in an address, etc) AND try to fidget with the DVD. If you chose Sienna over Ody after you do that, I'd sure like to understand why.
#4916 of 5228 Re: NAV without DVD? [richardnva] by speterson1 Jul 21, 2009 (9:16 am)
Replying to: richardnva (Jul 21, 2009 8:38 am) The first thing that popped into my mind when I read your post was can you find an aftermarket NAV device you'd be happy with? They're getting cheaper all the time and then you could really save some bucks by just getting an EX or EX-L. Replies to this message: berri (Jul 21, 2009 5:42 pm) richardnva (Jul 22, 2009 4:52 am)
#4917 of 5228 Re: NAV without DVD? [speterson1] by berri Jul 21, 2009 (5:42 pm)
Replying to: speterson1 (Jul 21, 2009 9:16 am) I just saw garmin portable NAV at around $200 plus free updates, why pay exhorbitant in dash prices and then get gouged on updates down the road as well? Same goes for portable DVD players.
#4918 of 5228 Re: NAV without DVD? [speterson1] by richardnva Jul 22, 2009 (4:52 am)
Replying to: speterson1 (Jul 21, 2009 9:16 am) You bring up a good option that we had considered as well. As cost effective as the portables are (compared to the built in option), we've decided to avoid them for two reasons: 1. they are targets for amateur car thieves in our area that like to do rudimentary smash and grabs (even when you hide the actual device the thieves look for the mounting hardware and that gives them the incentive to break in) and 2. the built ins offer larger touch screens and a much cleaner (integrated) installation.   Thanks for the suggestion!   Do you know if it's possible to get the build in Nav without the Entertainment option?
#4919 of 5228 Odyssey clear winner by bwires Jul 24, 2009 (7:36 am)
We toiled over which minivan to buy for about a year. We test drove so many minivans (used, new, imports, domestic etc.) that it was comical. We went so far as to rent a Chrysler, a Sienna and a Honda.   In April we finally decided, and bought a new '09 Odyssey.   In all of our test drives, we thought the Honda was the clear winner. To me, even though the Sienna comes in second place, it finishes a distant second place.   The Honda was a little more expensive, which was one of the things that delayed our decision. We really wanted to like the Sienna, Sedona, and / or T&C, in the effort to spend a little less ... but in the end we bought what we thought was the best minivan. Had we bought any of the others, we would have felt we had settled.   Three months after purchase, we're extremely happy with our decision.
#4920 of 5228 Opinions by mrscoffield Jul 25, 2009 (8:11 am)
After checking out a number of van's and crossovers my husband and I have settled on either an Odyssey or a Sienna. We've test driven the vehicles and this was what we noticed.   -Odyssey has agile steering but more elevated road noise. -Sienna has the 2nd row seat that moves forward. (Nice for us because we want more kids). -Odyssey has neat storage cubby in front of 2nd row. -Sienna has nicer driver and front passenger seats. The Odyssey left us feeling like our knees were in the dashboard, didn't get that in the Sienna.   So weighing the pros of each, I think it's hard to determine a clear winner. I like that Honda's pricing is more upfront than Toyota's, I hate all the bizarre packages. Replies to this message: andy603 (Jul 26, 2009 2:24 am) bwires (Jul 28, 2009 3:31 pm) speterson1 (Jul 29, 2009 5:25 am) bwires (Aug 06, 2009 10:33 am) and 8 more... ateixeira (Jul 29, 2009 10:30 am) bwires (Aug 06, 2009 11:16 am) and 10 more...
#4921 of 5228 Re: Opinions [mrscoffield] by andy603 Jul 26, 2009 (2:24 am)
Replying to: mrscoffield (Jul 25, 2009 8:11 am) do rear entertainment or navigation options interest you? If not, I'd say you did a pretty good comparison and you might want to consider which is a better out the door price. If they matter, I would highly encourage you to functionally test the NAV and DVD *while driving* (your passenger, not you!) on both cars and then decide.
#4922 of 5228 Opinions by eisiminger Jul 27, 2009 (9:45 am)
i have a 07 EX ,25000miles so far. only complaints were about soft brakes. latest TSB was installed at 19000 miles ,still soft on initial start up. Becky my service writer told me today !! dont worry about 1st start up,after that the brakes will be good . darn if i dont agree with her and im a mechanic. just returned from a 4500 mile trip and brakes were great even towing my small trailer. 800 lbs. with a 400cc scooter on it . for fun i looked at a 09 seinna today. two quick comments, front seats way too tight for me, 5' 11 at 260 lbs. also why is toy so ugly compared to ody. thanks ike in nm.

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