- #4909 of 5225
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Re: Be careful... [odyssey_stinx]
by andy603
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Jul 14, 2009 (2:48 am)
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Replying to: odyssey_stinx (Jul 11, 2009 5:02 am)
Sorry but after reading this post I had to comment. This poster clearly has some deeply rooted emotional issues and is using this forum for catharsis. NEVER by ANY Honda? Have you looked at the overall sat rating across Consumer Reports, Edmunds, etc. The resale values, the NUMBER of CARs they sell in the USA? 'nuff said. Do your research, test drive your car and don't let this nut sway you either toward or away from Honda. The jury should simply disregard the ludicrous rant.
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- #4910 of 5225
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Re: Be careful... [andy603]
by phil78
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Jul 14, 2009 (6:37 pm)
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Replying to: andy603 (Jul 14, 2009 2:48 am)
Thanks to all for their input!
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- #4911 of 5225
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Lexus of minivans
by cracovian
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Jul 20, 2009 (10:32 am)
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"If Lexus had a van it'd be a Sienna"
However... my 2008's engine sounds like a tractor, especially for the first 1-2 minutes, then it smoothes out.
The highway noise (or is it the OEM tires?) is high. Will it get better when I get nice Michelins eventually?
Finally, the bumps and road imperfections are very pronounced. I can compare it to my sister's old Highlander which rides as smooth as butter... What gives?
I've had it since new, it's great for our family but it's imperfect and not what you'd expect from a "Lexus". Again, is this normal or should I be concerned with mine?
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- #4912 of 5225
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Re: Lexus of minivans [cracovian]
by thegraduate
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Jul 20, 2009 (5:03 pm)
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Replying to: cracovian (Jul 20, 2009 10:32 am)
Simple solution: go test drive another one. Even a pre-owned one. Should give you insight into how similar yours is to others'.
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- #4913 of 5225
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Re: Why we're going with Odyssey vs Sienna this time [andy603]
by richardnva
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Jul 21, 2009 (8:33 am)
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Replying to: andy603 (Jul 13, 2009 3:09 am)
FWIW - The Odyssey run flats (Michelin PAX) only get about 12k miles before needing replacement. At $300 per tire, it's very expensive and due to the built in tire pressure monitors its very expensive to "de PAX" the van and get a different type of tire. If you switch to an Odyssey be careful about run flats. That's the main reason I'm selling mine. I didn't realize the Toyota run flats had the same problem. I guess you have to use a really soft rubber compound to soften the ride from the run flat donut device within the tire.
I agree that the lock out feature on the NAV is a real annoyance, but is good for safety reasons. I had an Acura with NAV and it can be a real distraction when driving. I see both sides, and agree that there should be a sensor in the passenger seat to override the lockout.
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- #4914 of 5225
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NAV without DVD?
by richardnva
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Jul 21, 2009 (8:38 am)
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Can you get an Odyssey or Sienna with the Navagation package without the DVD/Entertainment package?
I haven't been to a dealership yet, and cannot determine by the option packages online. It looks like you can get DVD without NAV, but not the other way around. Is it true that once you upgrade to NAV you have to get the DVD entertainment system?
We don't go on long road trips and our typical daily commute is usually only 10-12 minutes to wherever we want to go so I don't really want to introduce the DVD factor every time we get in the car. Our current 05 Odyssey doesn't have either and I'd really like to get NAV on our new van.
Any tips here?
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- #4915 of 5225
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Re: Why we're going with Odyssey vs Sienna this time [richardnva]
by andy603
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Jul 21, 2009 (9:12 am)
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Replying to: richardnva (Jul 21, 2009 8:33 am)
the fact that you have to load/unload DVDs BEHIND YOU in the Sienna totally negates the alleged safety of the locked-out NAV as well. I can't believe that the new 2010 Sienna's still have the EXACT same NAV and same DVD layout as my 2006. Why they did this I will never know, but anyone considering either a Sienna or Ody needs to actually try to USE the Nav (put in an address, etc) AND try to fidget with the DVD. If you chose Sienna over Ody after you do that, I'd sure like to understand why.
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- #4916 of 5225
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Re: NAV without DVD? [richardnva]
by speterson1
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Jul 21, 2009 (9:16 am)
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Replying to: richardnva (Jul 21, 2009 8:38 am)
The first thing that popped into my mind when I read your post was can you find an aftermarket NAV device you'd be happy with? They're getting cheaper all the time and then you could really save some bucks by just getting an EX or EX-L.
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- #4917 of 5225
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Re: NAV without DVD? [speterson1]
by berri
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Jul 21, 2009 (5:42 pm)
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Replying to: speterson1 (Jul 21, 2009 9:16 am)
I just saw garmin portable NAV at around $200 plus free updates, why pay exhorbitant in dash prices and then get gouged on updates down the road as well? Same goes for portable DVD players.
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- #4918 of 5225
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Re: NAV without DVD? [speterson1]
by richardnva
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Jul 22, 2009 (4:52 am)
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Replying to: speterson1 (Jul 21, 2009 9:16 am)
You bring up a good option that we had considered as well. As cost effective as the portables are (compared to the built in option), we've decided to avoid them for two reasons: 1. they are targets for amateur car thieves in our area that like to do rudimentary smash and grabs (even when you hide the actual device the thieves look for the mounting hardware and that gives them the incentive to break in) and 2. the built ins offer larger touch screens and a much cleaner (integrated) installation.
Thanks for the suggestion!
Do you know if it's possible to get the build in Nav without the Entertainment option?
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