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Re: Why we're going with Odyssey vs Sienna this time [minniemouse27]
by andy603
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Jul 13, 2009 (4:51 am)
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Replying to: minniemouse27 (Jul 13, 2009 4:40 am)
Great ideas that people should be aware of to make their decisions. From my research, Honda has as good safety& realiability record as Sienna. The reason I like the factory installed Nav and DVD is for convenience/look but obviously thats a personal decision. I suspect your DVD has to be loaded from the back seats too? To me, thats a safety concern. Also, the build in Nav has a rearview cam, not sure if you can do that with yours. At the end of the day maybe I'm just burned out on Sienna and frustrated that for 7 years now they have done a single thing to fix the problems I've mentioned. I must say however, mechanically I've had ZERO problems in nearly 7 years.
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- #4907 of 5230
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Re: Why we're going with Odyssey vs Sienna this time [andy603]
by minniemouse27
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Jul 13, 2009 (5:15 am)
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Replying to: andy603 (Jul 13, 2009 4:51 am)
Our DVD player attaches to the backs of the front row headrests (very securely...I'm a geek about safety) and one of the screens pops forward to load/unload the DVDs. I was able to take care of it from the passenger seat in our Jetta ... not sure if I could in the Sienna but that isn't important since dd can swap them out herself now.
Another upside to not having the player installed is that we only put it in the car when we are planning trips 1hr or longer.... so the kids can't ask to watch it when we are just running around locally!
No we can't do the rearview cam unless we do something aftermarket...but we weren't all that interested in it ....it would of have been nice but it wasn't all that important of a feature. I was more interested in the side airbags and how many upper tether anchors were available (for car seats). Oh and I'm loving the full "eighth" seat too!
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- #4908 of 5230
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Re: Be careful... [odyssey_stinx]
by ivk
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Jul 13, 2009 (10:23 pm)
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Replying to: odyssey_stinx (Jul 11, 2009 5:02 am)
Same story here. Check Wikipedia article about Honda Odyssey and you will find a section about the transmission problems. When your car decides to go from overdrive to the second gear at 60 mph this is like slamming your brakes (luckily no one got hurt in our case). Honda would not acknowledge the problem but if you are lucky you will get some "good will" assistance to replace your broken transmission with a renewed (but still defective!) one.
I will stay away from Honda for now.
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- #4909 of 5230
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Re: Be careful... [odyssey_stinx]
by andy603
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Jul 14, 2009 (2:48 am)
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Replying to: odyssey_stinx (Jul 11, 2009 5:02 am)
Sorry but after reading this post I had to comment. This poster clearly has some deeply rooted emotional issues and is using this forum for catharsis. NEVER by ANY Honda? Have you looked at the overall sat rating across Consumer Reports, Edmunds, etc. The resale values, the NUMBER of CARs they sell in the USA? 'nuff said. Do your research, test drive your car and don't let this nut sway you either toward or away from Honda. The jury should simply disregard the ludicrous rant.
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Re: Be careful... [andy603]
by phil78
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Jul 14, 2009 (6:37 pm)
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Replying to: andy603 (Jul 14, 2009 2:48 am)
Thanks to all for their input!
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- #4911 of 5230
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Lexus of minivans
by cracovian
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Jul 20, 2009 (10:32 am)
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"If Lexus had a van it'd be a Sienna"
However... my 2008's engine sounds like a tractor, especially for the first 1-2 minutes, then it smoothes out.
The highway noise (or is it the OEM tires?) is high. Will it get better when I get nice Michelins eventually?
Finally, the bumps and road imperfections are very pronounced. I can compare it to my sister's old Highlander which rides as smooth as butter... What gives?
I've had it since new, it's great for our family but it's imperfect and not what you'd expect from a "Lexus". Again, is this normal or should I be concerned with mine?
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Re: Lexus of minivans [cracovian]
by thegraduate
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Jul 20, 2009 (5:03 pm)
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Replying to: cracovian (Jul 20, 2009 10:32 am)
Simple solution: go test drive another one. Even a pre-owned one. Should give you insight into how similar yours is to others'.
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Re: Why we're going with Odyssey vs Sienna this time [andy603]
by richardnva
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Jul 21, 2009 (8:33 am)
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Replying to: andy603 (Jul 13, 2009 3:09 am)
FWIW - The Odyssey run flats (Michelin PAX) only get about 12k miles before needing replacement. At $300 per tire, it's very expensive and due to the built in tire pressure monitors its very expensive to "de PAX" the van and get a different type of tire. If you switch to an Odyssey be careful about run flats. That's the main reason I'm selling mine. I didn't realize the Toyota run flats had the same problem. I guess you have to use a really soft rubber compound to soften the ride from the run flat donut device within the tire.
I agree that the lock out feature on the NAV is a real annoyance, but is good for safety reasons. I had an Acura with NAV and it can be a real distraction when driving. I see both sides, and agree that there should be a sensor in the passenger seat to override the lockout.
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NAV without DVD?
by richardnva
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Jul 21, 2009 (8:38 am)
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Can you get an Odyssey or Sienna with the Navagation package without the DVD/Entertainment package?
I haven't been to a dealership yet, and cannot determine by the option packages online. It looks like you can get DVD without NAV, but not the other way around. Is it true that once you upgrade to NAV you have to get the DVD entertainment system?
We don't go on long road trips and our typical daily commute is usually only 10-12 minutes to wherever we want to go so I don't really want to introduce the DVD factor every time we get in the car. Our current 05 Odyssey doesn't have either and I'd really like to get NAV on our new van.
Any tips here?
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Re: Why we're going with Odyssey vs Sienna this time [richardnva]
by andy603
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Jul 21, 2009 (9:12 am)
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Replying to: richardnva (Jul 21, 2009 8:33 am)
the fact that you have to load/unload DVDs BEHIND YOU in the Sienna totally negates the alleged safety of the locked-out NAV as well. I can't believe that the new 2010 Sienna's still have the EXACT same NAV and same DVD layout as my 2006. Why they did this I will never know, but anyone considering either a Sienna or Ody needs to actually try to USE the Nav (put in an address, etc) AND try to fidget with the DVD. If you chose Sienna over Ody after you do that, I'd sure like to understand why.
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