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Vans & Minivans Honda Odyssey Honda Odyssey vs. Toyota Sienna
5193 messages, Last post on Nov 28, 2009 at 9:19 PM
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Replying to: kcdude1 (Jun 24, 2009 12:09 pm) If the neighbor banged up that Ody and didn't bother to fix it, that may raise a bit of concern. Then again the price is good and at least you know the history. If you're OK with the cosmetic damage, it could be seen as a bargain. If you have to fix it, not so much... Good luck either way. Let us know what you decide. |
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Replying to: kcdude1 (Jun 24, 2009 12:09 pm) # 2. To get comparable features, compare an Odyssey EX-L to a Sienna XLE. To get the comparable features, forget a Sienna LE because the Sienna XLE has to have the optional leather and sunroof package to be comparable to an Odyssey EX-L. # 3. IF you buy a used vehicle with scratches and dents, you won't have to worry about them in the future. # 4. Depends on your needs: The Sienna LE has THE most space behind the 3rd row seat if you need to take a lot of luggage on trips BUT the Odyssey has the MOST comfortable seats for all passengers with separately controlled temperature for the driver and front passenger. # 5. Most people do NOT have problems after buying a former rental or fleet vehicle.
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Replying to: toyojunk (Jun 25, 2009 2:30 pm) Lionel
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Replying to: kcdude1 (Jun 26, 2009 8:04 am) Also 60k miles odyssey for 14 k which needs work done..Seriously,avoid it.A used 2 year newer Sienna with 25k less miles is definitely better.You can negotiate with the dealer for 1k or1.5k less And it still has powertrain warr..A rental car is well maintained by the rental agency.Most used cars on dealers lots nowadays are ex-rentals.Dont worry too much about it being a rental.. So my advice--Go with Sienna ..Just MHO. |
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It's a bit tough to get the exact equipment from one van to the other, but I found a few rough equivalents when I was shopping: Ody LX ~= Sienna CE pkg 2 Ody EX ~= Sienna LE pkg 3 (this is what I got) EX-L ~= XLE pkg 6 EX-L-RES ~= XLE pkg 7 EX-L-RES-NAV ~= XLE pkg 8 Toyota shuffles the packages each year, so it's hard to get an exact match, but you can come close. A lot of folks assume an Ody LX = Sienna LE, but that's not the case at all. The LX is the base Ody, and the LE is the mid-line Sienna, so it comes with more equipment (6CD changer, steering wheel audio controls, puddle lamps, power 3rd row windows, roof rack cross bars, lumbar, fold flat passenger seat, heated mirrors, etc.). Not to mention, I'm not even sure that Toyota builds a Sienna LE without at least package 1, and that would add one power sliding door, a trip computer (only on the Ody Touring), and a universal garage door opener. So in reality the LE pkg 1 is about half way between the Ody LX and EX, probably closer to the latter. This was true in 2007, at least, though of course Honda and Toyota change content slightly (adding and removing stuff, by the way) each year. We should have a cost-cutting police thread. For 2008 Toyota deleted daytime running lights from some models, though all you have to do is insert a fuse. The Tow Prep package (a pair of oil cooler) also became an option, rather than standard. They did add Bluetooth, but IMHO they cost-cut more than they added. |
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Replying to: kcdude1 (Jun 26, 2009 8:04 am) I would not buy another Honda. Why do you think your neighbour is buying the Highlander? |
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Hi all, I'm new to the group and have a few questions. My wife and I are looking for a minivan and thought we had settled on the Odyssey. However, my wife is very tall and can't get comfortable in the Odyssey; it has a "hump" where her left foot needs to rest, and the edge of this hump is not wide enough to properly support her foot. She tried adjusting the 8 way driver's seat, steering wheel, etc, and still could never get comfortable. Someone suggested putting an angled block of wood in this area and velcroing it to the floor (apparently gluing or nailing it in might void the warantee). My concern is that this may possibly slip or rotate and compromise safety. By contrast, my wife was easily able to get comfortable in the Sienna, but I am concerned over both its poor rear crash test ratings and its 4 star driver protection rating (whereas all other new vans I have read about had a 5 star rating here). Any thoughts? Thanks! Phil |
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Replying to: phil78 (Jul 09, 2009 10:12 am) I would go with what makes you and your wife more comfortable. 
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Replying to: phil78 (Jul 09, 2009 10:12 am)  Seriously it's a good van. I love my Honda, but there is nothing wrong at all with Toyota. Their safety record is nearly equal. |
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Replying to: phil78 (Jul 09, 2009 10:12 am) The rear crash test depends substantially on headrest design. To score well, many have adopted headrests that tilt forward substantially (see the new Outback / Legacy, for example). Many find these a bit uncomfortable, and some end up turning the headrest around, defeating the design. The Sienna headrest design is a bit old, and should be updated with the redesign (due early 2010). But, rear whiplash, while more common than other injuries, is also a much less significant risk than damage from front or side impact. One site I like is informedforlife.org, who takes the different safety ratings and combines them into one statistic (driver fatality risk). The Sienna scores well (63, median of 100, lower is better; this is best 10%), but Odyssey is a little better (53, best 1%). So, I'd say they're pretty close safety wise, and would go more for comfort.
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