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Toyota Sienna, Honda Odyssey, Car Comparisons, Van
#4889 of 5511 Re: Buy Used Rental Vehicles
Jun 24, 2009 (9:58 am)
We are on our third rental/fleet vehicle and haven't had any problems yet (although we've only had the third vehicle for 3 days so far!).
We purchased an 03 Mitsubishi Galant from Enterprise in 2004 w/ 30K on it and it worked great... no major repairs at all. We had it until 12/07 when I was the center vehicle in a 5-car pileup on the highway... which I walked away from!
Two weeks later we purchased a 10mo 2007 VW Jetta that had been part of a fleet program. We have yet to do anything w/ it other than change the oil and purchase a new set of tires (just last month). The car had 11K on it when we bought it, I have a 50mile commute each way round trip and it has been an excellent car.
On Monday we picked up a certified used 2008 Sienna LE from a Toyota dealership. We are really happy w/ it so far but it's only been 3 days!
Interestingly, every Sienna on their lot was classified as a former rental car according to their CarFax reports.
I definitely wouldn't dismiss a former rental car when purchasing a used vehicle!
#4890 of 5511 Re: Help me decide between 2008 Sienna LE and 2006 Odyssey EX-L [yatesjo]
Jun 24, 2009 (12:09 pm)
Thank you all for the advice. My neighbour not being a good driver had few scratches one dent on the left passenger door and few inches crack in the front bumper. The body shop gave a quote of $3700 to fix it out of which parts was $700 and rest all was labor and taxes. The mechanic checked it out and said everything was fine with it.I am ok with few scratches and dents and probably that is the reason my neighbor is giving it to us at that price since 06 odyssey EX-L's on craigslist in kansas city area are going around for $20,000 with some of them having less miles.As far as rental cars go I had bought a five year old toyota corolla which was a leased/rental vehicle from a dealer and never had a problem after having owned it for over 6 years now. My wife had got a mazda protege from carmax with around 15,000miles on it way back in 1999 and she never had any problems on it. So it just depends on the car you get I believe and normally you will not have problems with honda,toyota's,nissan or mazda.
#4891 of 5511 Re: Help me decide between 2008 Sienna LE and 2006 Odyssey EX-L [kcdude1]
Jun 25, 2009 (8:16 am)
You can add Subaru to that list, mine gave me 9 trouble-free years, and still sold for 40% of what I paid for it...nine years later!
If the neighbor banged up that Ody and didn't bother to fix it, that may raise a bit of concern. Then again the price is good and at least you know the history. If you're OK with the cosmetic damage, it could be seen as a bargain. If you have to fix it, not so much...
Good luck either way. Let us know what you decide.
#4892 of 5511 Re: Help me decide between 2008 Sienna LE and 2006 Odyssey EX-L [kcdude1]
Jun 25, 2009 (2:30 pm)
# 1. A Sienna LE is halfway between an Odyssey LX and EX in desired features. Power sliding doors on both sides and a power liftgate are "nice to have" but the Sienna LE has the right side power sliding door which is the one most often used.
# 2. To get comparable features, compare an Odyssey EX-L to a Sienna XLE. To get the comparable features, forget a Sienna LE because the Sienna XLE has to have the optional leather and sunroof package to be comparable to an Odyssey EX-L.
# 3. IF you buy a used vehicle with scratches and dents, you won't have to worry about them in the future.
# 4. Depends on your needs: The Sienna LE has THE most space behind the 3rd row seat if you need to take a lot of luggage on trips BUT the Odyssey has the MOST comfortable seats for all passengers with separately controlled temperature for the driver and front passenger.
# 5. Most people do NOT have problems after buying a former rental or fleet vehicle.
#4893 of 5511 Re: Help me decide between 2008 Sienna LE and 2006 Odyssey EX-L [toyojunk]
Jun 26, 2009 (8:04 am)
We have decided to go with the 2006 Odyssey EX-L. We will have to wait on my neighbor to buy their new Highlander before we can get their van. Thanks again to all of you for your knowledgable advice.
#4894 of 5511 Re: Help me decide between 2008 Sienna LE and 2006 Odyssey EX-L [kcdude1]
Jun 26, 2009 (8:52 pm)
Sienna is much better than the Odyssey in MHO.It is quieter and has a comfy ride.Odyssey has good handling but has a lot of road noise that can get tiring.
Also 60k miles odyssey for 14 k which needs work done..Seriously,avoid it.A used 2 year newer Sienna with 25k less miles is definitely better.You can negotiate with the dealer for 1k or1.5k less
And it still has powertrain warr..A rental car is well maintained by the rental agency.Most used cars on dealers lots nowadays are ex-rentals.Dont worry too much about it being a rental..
So my advice--Go with Sienna ..Just MHO.
Jun 29, 2009 (7:27 am)
It's a bit tough to get the exact equipment from one van to the other, but I found a few rough equivalents when I was shopping:
Ody LX ~= Sienna CE pkg 2
Ody EX ~= Sienna LE pkg 3 (this is what I got)
EX-L ~= XLE pkg 6
EX-L-RES ~= XLE pkg 7
EX-L-RES-NAV ~= XLE pkg 8
Toyota shuffles the packages each year, so it's hard to get an exact match, but you can come close.
A lot of folks assume an Ody LX = Sienna LE, but that's not the case at all. The LX is the base Ody, and the LE is the mid-line Sienna, so it comes with more equipment (6CD changer, steering wheel audio controls, puddle lamps, power 3rd row windows, roof rack cross bars, lumbar, fold flat passenger seat, heated mirrors, etc.).
Not to mention, I'm not even sure that Toyota builds a Sienna LE without at least package 1, and that would add one power sliding door, a trip computer (only on the Ody Touring), and a universal garage door opener. So in reality the LE pkg 1 is about half way between the Ody LX and EX, probably closer to the latter.
This was true in 2007, at least, though of course Honda and Toyota change content slightly (adding and removing stuff, by the way) each year.
We should have a cost-cutting police thread. For 2008 Toyota deleted daytime running lights from some models, though all you have to do is insert a fuse. The Tow Prep package (a pair of oil cooler) also became an option, rather than standard. They did add Bluetooth, but IMHO they cost-cut more than they added.
#4896 of 5511 Re: Help me decide between 2008 Sienna LE and 2006 Odyssey EX-L [kcdude1]
Jun 30, 2009 (5:54 am)
Being owners of both Honda and Toyota vehicles, you would be a lot happier with the Sienna. Toyota parts are more durable and the ride is much quieter.
I would not buy another Honda. Why do you think your neighbour is buying the Highlander?
#4897 of 5511 odyssey and sienna
Jul 09, 2009 (10:12 am)
I'm new to the group and have a few questions. My wife and I are looking for a minivan and thought we had settled on the Odyssey. However, my wife is very tall and can't get comfortable in the Odyssey; it has a "hump" where her left foot needs to rest, and the edge of this hump is not wide enough to properly support her foot. She tried adjusting the 8 way driver's seat, steering wheel, etc, and still could never get comfortable. Someone suggested putting an angled block of wood in this area and velcroing it to the floor (apparently gluing or nailing it in might void the warantee). My concern is that this may possibly slip or rotate and compromise safety.
By contrast, my wife was easily able to get comfortable in the Sienna, but I am concerned over both its poor rear crash test ratings and its 4 star driver protection rating (whereas all other new vans I have read about had a 5 star rating here).
#4898 of 5511 Re: odyssey and sienna [phil78]
Jul 09, 2009 (1:52 pm)
I don't know why it got a 4-star rating the IIHS gave it a good rating, which is the highest they give for both front and side. It did really well in both impacts. We were rear-ended in our previous 04 Sienna and walked away, they only test the actual seat and headrest. Starting with the 2009 Sienna Toyota put in a new headrest design which I think are the active kind so it is just as safe as an Odyssey.
I would go with what makes you and your wife more comfortable.