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Re: Chose the Odyssey over the Sienna [thegraduate]
by berri
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May 26, 2009 (5:38 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (May 26, 2009 7:59 am)
We went with the Ody, but they are both the best of the minivans and we thought also nicer than a lot of the comparable sized SUV's. I found pricing pretty similar, so I'd just drive both and select the one you like better. Either way, I think you'll be happy.
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- #4873 of 5221
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Re: Resale value? [yatesjo]
by ateixeira
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May 27, 2009 (6:00 am)
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Replying to: yatesjo (May 26, 2009 11:58 am)
He paid more for his LE than people are paying for XLEs now.
Don't take my word for it, read the Prices Paid thread.
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- #4874 of 5221
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Re: Chose the Odyssey over the Sienna [berri]
by backwoods
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May 27, 2009 (5:55 pm)
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Replying to: berri (May 26, 2009 5:38 pm)
I have a 04 Sienna with 65,000 miles, I may have gotten a lemon? I intended to keep for some time but now I'm looking to replace ASAP. Third set of tires, brakes are spongy and have been since day-one, been replaced and worked on various times. Terrible in cross wind and in and around truck traffic at hi-speeds, more so than any other van. Slightest dust on door seals and it squeaks badly. Transmission shifts erratic in city traffic and has caused some safety issues. Many are having problems with door retainers cracking, requiring major repair or door replacement. Alum. rims are trash/corroded (at 11,000 miles, lost arbitration on this issue). Latest issue is the A/C need repairs to the tune of over $2000.
There are many positive attributes in the Sienna but the problems tend to obscure this fact.
AND, someone commented on lack of a foot rest!!!!!!!!!!!!
Reading the various forums, would indicate I am not alone with the these issues. Many with far more than I have stated.
I sure hope the next van will fair much better. Odyssey is at the top of the list but I still want to check out the VW Routan which uses the Chrysler chassis. Nor have I ruled out the T/C. Had a Dodge Caravan which had over 120,000 and had less service bay time than the current Sienna.
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- #4875 of 5221
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Re: Chose the Odyssey over the Sienna [backwoods]
by ateixeira
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May 28, 2009 (8:05 am)
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Replying to: backwoods (May 27, 2009 5:55 pm)
What, you don't think 04 Odysseys have any problems?
Seriously? 
My 07 has been trouble-free and that was me that mentioned the dead pedal, which is more than a foot rest BTW.
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- #4876 of 5221
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Re: Chose the Odyssey over the Sienna [ateixeira]
by speterson1
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May 28, 2009 (8:28 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 28, 2009 8:05 am)
Juice, what exactly is a 'dead pedal', I honestly don't know.
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- #4877 of 5221
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Re: Chose the Odyssey over the Sienna [speterson1]
by ateixeira
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May 28, 2009 (9:05 am)
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Replying to: speterson1 (May 28, 2009 8:28 am)
It's the imaginary pedal to the left of the clutch (in manuals) or brake (in automatics) pedal where you put your left foot to brace yourself in the driver's seat during cornering or aggressive driving.
Without a Recaro-style seat with big side bolsters it's all you've got to hold you in place, especially with flat seats and slippery leather.
Best pic I could find had an aftermarket cover on it but here goes, it's the left-most in this pic:
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- #4878 of 5221
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Re: Chose the Odyssey over the Sienna [backwoods]
by toyojunk
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May 29, 2009 (6:06 pm)
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Replying to: backwoods (May 27, 2009 5:55 pm)
You are not alone. Tires and other items wear out much more quickly on the Sienna than the Odyssey or Chrysler minivans. Cross winds affect the Sienna much more than with either Odyssey or Chrysler minivans. Routine maintenance is also more expensive than with Chrysler minivans. Front door stop welds are defective in 2006 and 2007 Siennas. Earlier Siennas had engine sludge problems.
Buy the Odyssey.
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- #4879 of 5221
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Re: Chose the Odyssey over the Sienna [toyojunk]
by siennami
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May 29, 2009 (7:54 pm)
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Replying to: toyojunk (May 29, 2009 6:06 pm)
Here we go again with the generalizations.....you cannot say that these items wear out more quickly on the Sienna because they don't on ALL Siennas. To be honest, the tires and brakes on my '03 VDub Passat wore out within the first two years that I owned the vehicle, which truly disgusted me, and the tires were Michelins, which I thought were pretty good tires. Shows what I knew! Now about the door welds: as I understand, there is a TSB on this defect. So, if your vehicle has this problem, can it not be repaired? And, again, does it affect ALL Siennas? Yes, earlier Siennas had engine sludge problems, but not ALL Siennas. You are making it seem as if every Sienna that leaves the factory has those problems. If yours has those problems and you can't get Toyota to fix them, for Heaven's sake, please trade it! I am so tired of reading your complaints about a perfectly good vehicle. You know what? My Sienna's brakes have developed some worrisome squeaking. Yeah, the vehicle is only 2 years old and has only 20k miles on it, and I'm the only driver. Yes, I know that they need to be checked, which they will be when I get the oil changed. Do I think this is inherent to this vehicle? I don't know. When you decide to purchase a vehicle, look everything over carefully, check prices carefully, test-drive carefully, and MAKE YOUR CHOICE CAREFULLY. If you then choose the wrong vehicle, it is time to eat that decision and move on! Stop complaining so much and enjoy your vehicle. If you can't, please buy your OdyT&CRoutanWhateverTheHeckPleasesYouBetter! 
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Re: Chose the Odyssey over the Sienna [toyojunk]
by hause7
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May 30, 2009 (1:48 am)
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Replying to: toyojunk (May 29, 2009 6:06 pm)
Stop posting ignorant posts about the Sienna. Unless you owned all 3 how can you make these statements. We have owned a Chrysler van is it was effected way more by crosswinds than either our 04 & 07 Sienna's. LOL Stock tires wear out on just about every car pretty quick including the Odyssey. As I said before in other post my neighbor has an 06(or 07 I forget) Odyssey and they had to replace there tires with under 30,000 miles on them. We just replaced our brakes and got a respectable 40,000 miles out of them, can't complain we do a lot of city driving and drive in hilly areas, plus we think the previous owners towed with it.
Actually 07 Sienna's aren't affected by the door weld problem, only 04-06 Sienna's and they replace it free of charge. Our 04 didn't have the problem and our 04 had 90,000 miles.
Sludge affected only a handful of 1st generation Sienna's.
I agree with siennami please just trade your Sienna in, if you really own one, so you can stop annoying everyone.
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Re: Chose the Odyssey over the Sienna [hause7]
by ateixeira
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Jun 01, 2009 (11:46 am)
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Replying to: hause7 (May 30, 2009 1:48 am)
The sludge issue affected engines THREE GENERATIONS ago.
The current 3.5l 2GR engines series has been excellent.
The prior 3.3l V6 engines were also very reliable.
Sure, if you go back 3 generations, to the long-ago phased out 3.0l V6, you will find cases of sludge.
Funny thing is he probably knew that when you purchased his 2006 Sienna, so he didn't care then. Actions speak louder than words. 
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