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Re: Resale value? [toyojunk]
by ateixeira
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May 26, 2009 (8:24 am)
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Replying to: toyojunk (May 25, 2009 6:58 pm)
I wasn't looking for the best handling, to me the comfortable/quiet ride from the Sienna was a far higher priority in a family trip vehicle. I made the right choice for my family.
For all the hype about Ody handling you would think Honda would at least include a dead pedal. Seriously, how can you even talk about handling when there is no real deal pedal for your left foot?
A deal-killer omission, IMHO, even if I had been shopping for handling vs. ride comfort.
Unless Honda has fixed that since I last test drove one? 
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Re: Resale value? [toyojunk]
by yatesjo
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May 26, 2009 (11:58 am)
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Replying to: toyojunk (May 25, 2009 6:58 pm)
Hans, speak for yourself. I'm quite happy with my Sienna and have no desire for a Odyssey. I tested them both thoroughly before I bought my Sienna as my discussions and reviews posted on this site while making my purchase decision attest to. The Honda is a good van, but not the van for my family.
You are the one who didn't do their research. You are the one who failed to negotiate a good deal. You are the one who continues to lie and spread misinformation disparaging the Sienna. What you are doing is wrong. Stop it!
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- #4872 of 5221
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Re: Chose the Odyssey over the Sienna [thegraduate]
by berri
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May 26, 2009 (5:38 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (May 26, 2009 7:59 am)
We went with the Ody, but they are both the best of the minivans and we thought also nicer than a lot of the comparable sized SUV's. I found pricing pretty similar, so I'd just drive both and select the one you like better. Either way, I think you'll be happy.
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Re: Resale value? [yatesjo]
by ateixeira
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May 27, 2009 (6:00 am)
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Replying to: yatesjo (May 26, 2009 11:58 am)
He paid more for his LE than people are paying for XLEs now.
Don't take my word for it, read the Prices Paid thread.
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- #4874 of 5221
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Re: Chose the Odyssey over the Sienna [berri]
by backwoods
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May 27, 2009 (5:55 pm)
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Replying to: berri (May 26, 2009 5:38 pm)
I have a 04 Sienna with 65,000 miles, I may have gotten a lemon? I intended to keep for some time but now I'm looking to replace ASAP. Third set of tires, brakes are spongy and have been since day-one, been replaced and worked on various times. Terrible in cross wind and in and around truck traffic at hi-speeds, more so than any other van. Slightest dust on door seals and it squeaks badly. Transmission shifts erratic in city traffic and has caused some safety issues. Many are having problems with door retainers cracking, requiring major repair or door replacement. Alum. rims are trash/corroded (at 11,000 miles, lost arbitration on this issue). Latest issue is the A/C need repairs to the tune of over $2000.
There are many positive attributes in the Sienna but the problems tend to obscure this fact.
AND, someone commented on lack of a foot rest!!!!!!!!!!!!
Reading the various forums, would indicate I am not alone with the these issues. Many with far more than I have stated.
I sure hope the next van will fair much better. Odyssey is at the top of the list but I still want to check out the VW Routan which uses the Chrysler chassis. Nor have I ruled out the T/C. Had a Dodge Caravan which had over 120,000 and had less service bay time than the current Sienna.
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- #4875 of 5221
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Re: Chose the Odyssey over the Sienna [backwoods]
by ateixeira
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May 28, 2009 (8:05 am)
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Replying to: backwoods (May 27, 2009 5:55 pm)
What, you don't think 04 Odysseys have any problems?
Seriously? 
My 07 has been trouble-free and that was me that mentioned the dead pedal, which is more than a foot rest BTW.
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- #4876 of 5221
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Re: Chose the Odyssey over the Sienna [ateixeira]
by speterson1
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May 28, 2009 (8:28 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 28, 2009 8:05 am)
Juice, what exactly is a 'dead pedal', I honestly don't know.
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- #4877 of 5221
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Re: Chose the Odyssey over the Sienna [speterson1]
by ateixeira
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May 28, 2009 (9:05 am)
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Replying to: speterson1 (May 28, 2009 8:28 am)
It's the imaginary pedal to the left of the clutch (in manuals) or brake (in automatics) pedal where you put your left foot to brace yourself in the driver's seat during cornering or aggressive driving.
Without a Recaro-style seat with big side bolsters it's all you've got to hold you in place, especially with flat seats and slippery leather.
Best pic I could find had an aftermarket cover on it but here goes, it's the left-most in this pic:
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Re: Chose the Odyssey over the Sienna [backwoods]
by toyojunk
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May 29, 2009 (6:06 pm)
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Replying to: backwoods (May 27, 2009 5:55 pm)
You are not alone. Tires and other items wear out much more quickly on the Sienna than the Odyssey or Chrysler minivans. Cross winds affect the Sienna much more than with either Odyssey or Chrysler minivans. Routine maintenance is also more expensive than with Chrysler minivans. Front door stop welds are defective in 2006 and 2007 Siennas. Earlier Siennas had engine sludge problems.
Buy the Odyssey.
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Re: Chose the Odyssey over the Sienna [toyojunk]
by siennami
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May 29, 2009 (7:54 pm)
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Replying to: toyojunk (May 29, 2009 6:06 pm)
Here we go again with the generalizations.....you cannot say that these items wear out more quickly on the Sienna because they don't on ALL Siennas. To be honest, the tires and brakes on my '03 VDub Passat wore out within the first two years that I owned the vehicle, which truly disgusted me, and the tires were Michelins, which I thought were pretty good tires. Shows what I knew! Now about the door welds: as I understand, there is a TSB on this defect. So, if your vehicle has this problem, can it not be repaired? And, again, does it affect ALL Siennas? Yes, earlier Siennas had engine sludge problems, but not ALL Siennas. You are making it seem as if every Sienna that leaves the factory has those problems. If yours has those problems and you can't get Toyota to fix them, for Heaven's sake, please trade it! I am so tired of reading your complaints about a perfectly good vehicle. You know what? My Sienna's brakes have developed some worrisome squeaking. Yeah, the vehicle is only 2 years old and has only 20k miles on it, and I'm the only driver. Yes, I know that they need to be checked, which they will be when I get the oil changed. Do I think this is inherent to this vehicle? I don't know. When you decide to purchase a vehicle, look everything over carefully, check prices carefully, test-drive carefully, and MAKE YOUR CHOICE CAREFULLY. If you then choose the wrong vehicle, it is time to eat that decision and move on! Stop complaining so much and enjoy your vehicle. If you can't, please buy your OdyT&CRoutanWhateverTheHeckPleasesYouBetter! 
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