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Replying to: oddyshopper (May 19, 2009 5:00 pm) Look at real-world tests - CR got the same mpg for the Ody and Sienna, and C&D got 3mpg better in their Sienna driving on the exact same roads. As soon as I let off the gas to coast or brake my trip computer immediately jumps to 99mpg on the "instant mpg" readout. Works just as well (better?). The rear crash protection you cite is really just an evaluation of the head rests. Infants, toddlers, and little kids in boosters don't even use them - you would have to evaluate the child safety seat they are in instead, to see what sort of whiplash protection they offer. If you want your kids to be safe make sure you research how well their safety seats are rated, not a headrest several feet too high to be of use to them. You're better off taking those off completely to increase visibility - your van will be safer that way. Think about it. |
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Found the details, link: http://www.iihs.org/ratings/head_restraints/head_restraint_info.html The dummy used is an average-sized adult male, so these ratings do not apply for kids or even my wife. Also, they have not even performed the dynamic test at all on the Sienna, so the ratings are based on static measurements only on the front driver's seat only. That doesn't take the seat frame into account at all. Third, for the Ody they specify "EX model seats (AHR)", so the results don't necessarily apply to all models. |
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Since Honda dealers are selling Odysseys with nice discounts, will the resale value of the Odyssey drop? While shopping for a new minivan, I discovered I can buy an Odyssey for thousands of dollars less than a comparable Sienna or Town and Country. Has resale value of Odysseys been much better than Siennas because Odysseys have few options that depreciate faster than the base vehicle? A less expensive used Odyssey LX costs more than a used Sienna LE.
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Replying to: toyojunk (May 20, 2009 7:45 am) |
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Replying to: toyojunk (May 20, 2009 7:45 am) It's not that the Ody costs thousands less, it's that you just got a terrible price quote on the Sienna. Keep shopping. Everyone got better prices than you did, by far. And with a handle like "toyojunk", do you honestly think people believe you're seriously shopping for another Toyota? I don't. |
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Replying to: yatesjo (May 20, 2009 8:56 am)
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Replying to: oddyshopper (Apr 17, 2009 5:53 am)
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Replying to: toyojunk (May 25, 2009 7:18 pm) Handling? haha were talking about minivans here, besides my Sienna handles just as well as any Odyssey I driven, but I have tons more power and can get better gas mileage. By the way dumping the stock tires on the Sienna improves handling tons, we have a set of Yokohama Avid's on ours and it's like night and day. |
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Replying to: toyojunk (May 25, 2009 7:18 pm) As Hause points out, the Odyssey isn't superior, but instead, different. The Sienna offers more usable power, better fuel economy, and a more family-oriented soft ride. I do disagree with him about the handling being as good in the Sienna, but hey, disagreements are allowed, right? The Odyssey has better seating options, more carlike handling, and in my opinion, better styling inside and out. We know you dislike your Sienna, but putting words in other people's mouths is going a little far, hans. Neither is the "Best" or the "Worst." Both are excellent options, which appeal to different people.
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Replying to: toyojunk (May 25, 2009 6:58 pm) For all the hype about Ody handling you would think Honda would at least include a dead pedal. Seriously, how can you even talk about handling when there is no real deal pedal for your left foot? A deal-killer omission, IMHO, even if I had been shopping for handling vs. ride comfort. Unless Honda has fixed that since I last test drove one? |
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