Sign In Join 



Honda Odyssey vs. Toyota Sienna

5230 messages,  Last post on Dec 06, 2009 at 7:16 AM

You are in the Honda Odyssey Forum. Your Host is Karens

What is this discussion about? Toyota Sienna, Honda Odyssey, Car Comparisons, Van


Messages Page 487 of 524
1
...
484
485
486
487
488
489
490
...
524
Prev
Next
Last
Go To Msg #
Search This Discussion

#4854 of 5230
Re: VCM engine [jimbob1] by ronjack
May 13, 2009 (9:20 am)
Reply

Replying to: jimbob1 (May 11, 2009 6:16 pm)

Thanks for the info. Do you notice any difference in sluggishness when it drops down in cylinders? hen you bought the Odyssey, wre you looking specifically for the VCM option.?
#4855 of 5230
Re: VCM engine [ronjack] by decon
May 13, 2009 (9:27 am)
Reply

Replying to: ronjack (May 13, 2009 9:20 am)

I test drove the Odyssey EX (no VCM) and the Odyssey EX-L (VCM). The EX seemed more uncomfortable (not as smooth) accelerating. I can detect the VCM cylinder changes in the accelerator going from ECO to regular.
#4856 of 5230
Re: VCM engine [ronjack] by jimbob1
May 14, 2009 (1:28 pm)
Reply

Replying to: ronjack (May 13, 2009 9:20 am)

I wasn't looking for VCM, but I figured if anyone could engineer it well, it would be Honda or Toyota. I did want leather, so the VCM came along for the ride, so to speak.
 
Most of the time, I can't detect when it goes in or out of VCM. Occasionally, I think I can, but I'm not really sure.
#4857 of 5230
Re: VCM engine [jimbob1] by ateixeira
May 15, 2009 (8:10 am)
Reply

Replying to: jimbob1 (May 14, 2009 1:28 pm)

FWIW, our friends in Tucson own an Ody with VCM and let me drive it for a day, and I could not tell when VCM was active besides the "ECO" light in the dash.
 
My complaints were more related to road noise, but the VCM was just fine. Didn't seem to go on very often, though.
#4858 of 5230
Re: VCM engine [jimbob1] by olavanman
May 18, 2009 (6:45 am)
Reply

Replying to: jimbob1 (May 14, 2009 1:28 pm)

Hello,
We just got the 2009 Odyssey EX-L with RES and I cannot detect when the VCM goes on or off (except for the "ECO" Indicator). It does make me feel good when the "ECO" light shows up . When I am driving down the highway, it comes on quite often.
#4859 of 5230
Re: VCM engine [olavanman] by oddyshopper
May 19, 2009 (5:00 pm)
Reply

Replying to: olavanman (May 18, 2009 6:45 am)

New EX-L owner.
 
VCM: For me I can not tell when it goes on and off.
 
For those with VCM issues, in 2007 or 2008 I believe Honda switched to VCM 2 which should be smoother than the old VCM. So unless you are testing the latest and greatest, your experience does not apply to new ody shoppers.
 
What surprised me about VCM: it goes on/off .... a lot. I thought once you where up to speed, the ody would think about it and then decide to switch a cylinder off, something that would happen a couple times a trip. But in reality iyou let up on the gas just a little, or go down a bit of a hill and it's shutting down cylinders.
 
I posted this above but it bears repeating: The Sienna gets a poor rating from IIHS on rear crash protection. It's amazing that consumer reports and parents magazine would pick as a top minivan something that has good safety ratings only on 3 sides.....
 
http://www.iihs.org/ratings/head_restraints/headrestraints.aspx?toyota
#4860 of 5230
Re: VCM engine [oddyshopper] by coupedncal
May 19, 2009 (9:15 pm)
Reply

Replying to: oddyshopper (May 19, 2009 5:00 pm)

This has been discussed here and on other forums a few times. Please know the green ECO light does not mean your VCM has kicked in. If you read the owner's manual, you will see VCM actually has no indicator and ECO light simply means you are in "economy" mode. You could well be running on all cylinders (literally and figuratively) while the ECO light is on. Others have gone through great pains to put LED lights to their cylinder bank to get noticed when VCM kicks in.
#4861 of 5230
Re: VCM engine [oddyshopper] by ateixeira
May 20, 2009 (6:53 am)
Reply

Replying to: oddyshopper (May 19, 2009 5:00 pm)

My Sienns simply shuts fuel off in those conditions (coasting, braking, going down hill), so it effectively saves the same amount of fuel.
 
Look at real-world tests - CR got the same mpg for the Ody and Sienna, and C&D got 3mpg better in their Sienna driving on the exact same roads.
 
As soon as I let off the gas to coast or brake my trip computer immediately jumps to 99mpg on the "instant mpg" readout. Works just as well (better?).
 
The rear crash protection you cite is really just an evaluation of the head rests.
 
Infants, toddlers, and little kids in boosters don't even use them - you would have to evaluate the child safety seat they are in instead, to see what sort of whiplash protection they offer. If you want your kids to be safe make sure you research how well their safety seats are rated, not a headrest several feet too high to be of use to them.
 
You're better off taking those off completely to increase visibility - your van will be safer that way.
 
Think about it.
#4862 of 5230
Head Restraint Test by ateixeira
May 20, 2009 (7:16 am)
Reply
Found the details, link:
 
http://www.iihs.org/ratings/head_restraints/head_restraint_info.html
 
The dummy used is an average-sized adult male, so these ratings do not apply for kids or even my wife.
 
Also, they have not even performed the dynamic test at all on the Sienna, so the ratings are based on static measurements only on the front driver's seat only. That doesn't take the seat frame into account at all.
 
Third, for the Ody they specify "EX model seats (AHR)", so the results don't necessarily apply to all models.
#4863 of 5230
Resale value? by toyojunk
May 20, 2009 (7:45 am)
Reply
Since Honda dealers are selling Odysseys with nice discounts, will the resale value of the Odyssey drop?
 
While shopping for a new minivan, I discovered I can buy an Odyssey for thousands of dollars less than a comparable Sienna or Town and Country.
 
Has resale value of Odysseys been much better than Siennas because Odysseys have few options that depreciate faster than the base vehicle? A less expensive used Odyssey LX costs more than a used Sienna LE.

Messages Page 487 of 524
1
...
484
485
486
487
488
489
490
...
524
Prev
Next
Last
Go To Msg #
Search This Discussion
To POST a message, please Sign In.

New? Join Now!

Forum Tools

Please sign in.
Email Address:

Password:

Forgot Password?

Search Forums

Enter Keyword(s)

Advanced Search

Browse by Vehicle



View All Vehicles
Advertisement
Ask the Community
See What People Are Asking

Browse by Board

Browse by Topic


View All Topics

Today's Chats

Advertisement