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5230 messages, Last post on Dec 06, 2009 at 7:16 AM
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Replying to: yatesjo (May 11, 2009 9:45 am) https://www.alg.com/deprratings.aspx An average or so rating of 3 stars for the Sienna, but guess what? Ody does no better, also 3 stars. Having said that, this is one reason why both vans are discounted more nowadays. My cousin actually paid full MSRP for her Ody (back in 2002 IIRC). $25 grand for an LX, so I'm sure if she goes to trade it in today she'd complain just like hansienna has been (of course that's him). As for Dodge, they also get 3 stars per that same chart but note that ALG dropped residual values on Chrysler products by 6% as of May 8, 2009, and that's probably not reflected yet. |
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Replying to: ronjack (May 11, 2009 10:02 am) On a trip last May from the Philly area to Orlando, I was getting 27+ on most tanks. The flat terrain helped a bunch. (5 adults, 1 kid, luggage for a week.) On a trip about 3 weeks ago to western Virginia - 300 miles, I got 26+ there and back. Not so flat terrain, but only 3 adults, overnight bags, and several briefcases. The VCM does help IMHO, but getting and staying in VCM is the trick- speed and terrain. Although the Orlando trip included a lot of miles with my son driving 75 -85 because I was too tired to hit him with a tire iron. I'm still surprised that loaded up behemoth of a van got that kind of mpg. I'm more in the 18 - 20 mpg range in normal mixed driving.
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Replying to: jimbob1 (May 11, 2009 6:16 pm)
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Replying to: ronjack (May 13, 2009 9:20 am) |
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Replying to: ronjack (May 13, 2009 9:20 am) Most of the time, I can't detect when it goes in or out of VCM. Occasionally, I think I can, but I'm not really sure. |
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Replying to: jimbob1 (May 14, 2009 1:28 pm) My complaints were more related to road noise, but the VCM was just fine. Didn't seem to go on very often, though. |
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Replying to: jimbob1 (May 14, 2009 1:28 pm) We just got the 2009 Odyssey EX-L with RES and I cannot detect when the VCM goes on or off (except for the "ECO" Indicator). It does make me feel good when the "ECO" light shows up  . When I am driving down the highway, it comes on quite often.
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Replying to: olavanman (May 18, 2009 6:45 am) VCM: For me I can not tell when it goes on and off. For those with VCM issues, in 2007 or 2008 I believe Honda switched to VCM 2 which should be smoother than the old VCM. So unless you are testing the latest and greatest, your experience does not apply to new ody shoppers. What surprised me about VCM: it goes on/off .... a lot. I thought once you where up to speed, the ody would think about it and then decide to switch a cylinder off, something that would happen a couple times a trip. But in reality iyou let up on the gas just a little, or go down a bit of a hill and it's shutting down cylinders. I posted this above but it bears repeating: The Sienna gets a poor rating from IIHS on rear crash protection. It's amazing that consumer reports and parents magazine would pick as a top minivan something that has good safety ratings only on 3 sides..... http://www.iihs.org/ratings/head_restraints/headrestraints.aspx?toyota
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Replying to: oddyshopper (May 19, 2009 5:00 pm) 
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Replying to: oddyshopper (May 19, 2009 5:00 pm) Look at real-world tests - CR got the same mpg for the Ody and Sienna, and C&D got 3mpg better in their Sienna driving on the exact same roads. As soon as I let off the gas to coast or brake my trip computer immediately jumps to 99mpg on the "instant mpg" readout. Works just as well (better?). The rear crash protection you cite is really just an evaluation of the head rests. Infants, toddlers, and little kids in boosters don't even use them - you would have to evaluate the child safety seat they are in instead, to see what sort of whiplash protection they offer. If you want your kids to be safe make sure you research how well their safety seats are rated, not a headrest several feet too high to be of use to them. You're better off taking those off completely to increase visibility - your van will be safer that way. Think about it. |
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