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Honda Odyssey vs. Toyota Sienna

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Re: Sienna vs Odyssey interior passenger space [westk1] by toyojunk
May 10, 2009 (2:28 pm)
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Replying to: westk1 (May 05, 2009 6:33 am)

The Odyssey definitely has better leg room and more comfortable seats for ALL passengers but the Sienna has the most cargo room and the Sienna cargo room is more efficiently used by having the air intake for rear air/heater located high on the right side of the cargo area. It is easier to get into 3rd row seats of the Sienna than the Odyssey.
 
With a Sienna, you choose between 7 or 8 passengers at time of purchase but with the Odyssey, you can have 7 or 8 any time you want. The 8 passenger Sienna does NOT have fold down armrests in the middle row but in the Odyssey, there are fold down armrests for both outer seats. When the Odyssey 2nd row armrests are folded down, the middle passenger in the 3rd row has to be quite small to fit between the 2 folded down armrests. Our 6 year old grand daughter thinks the middle seat fits her just right when the armrests are folded down.
 
I like the Odyssey spare tire location much better than the Sienna location (which is the same difficult place to access as the Chrysler Town & Country).
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Re: Resale value [toyojunk] by yatesjo
May 11, 2009 (9:45 am)
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Replying to: toyojunk (May 10, 2009 2:15 pm)

Hansienna is that you?
 
Per Edmunds True Cost to Own, a Sienna XLE loses 51.4% of its value versus 49.4% loss of value on the Odyssey EX-L. That's not a big difference if you ask me. I didn't bother to look up the T&C, but forget 5 years... 2008 T&Cs already have a 50% discount around here.
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VCM engine by ronjack
May 11, 2009 (10:02 am)
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Hello,
 
Does any one have experience with the 2006 Odyssey VCM engine.? Does it really save much gas?
 
Also, looking at Sienna versus Odyssey 2006 re: passenger power seat. Toyota has one. Does Honda, at all?
 
Thanks.
 
Ron
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Re: Resale value [yatesjo] by ateixeira
May 11, 2009 (10:51 am)
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Replying to: yatesjo (May 11, 2009 9:45 am)

Another source, ALG, gives both vans the same rating:
 
https://www.alg.com/deprratings.aspx
 
An average or so rating of 3 stars for the Sienna, but guess what? Ody does no better, also 3 stars.
 
Having said that, this is one reason why both vans are discounted more nowadays.
 
My cousin actually paid full MSRP for her Ody (back in 2002 IIRC). $25 grand for an LX, so I'm sure if she goes to trade it in today she'd complain just like hansienna has been (of course that's him).
 
As for Dodge, they also get 3 stars per that same chart but note that ALG dropped residual values on Chrysler products by 6% as of May 8, 2009, and that's probably not reflected yet.
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Re: VCM engine [ronjack] by jimbob1
May 11, 2009 (6:16 pm)
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Replying to: ronjack (May 11, 2009 10:02 am)

Does any one have experience with the 2006 Odyssey VCM engine.? Does it really save much gas?
  
 
On a trip last May from the Philly area to Orlando, I was getting 27+ on most tanks. The flat terrain helped a bunch. (5 adults, 1 kid, luggage for a week.)
 
On a trip about 3 weeks ago to western Virginia - 300 miles, I got 26+ there and back. Not so flat terrain, but only 3 adults, overnight bags, and several briefcases.
 
The VCM does help IMHO, but getting and staying in VCM is the trick- speed and terrain. Although the Orlando trip included a lot of miles with my son driving 75 -85 because I was too tired to hit him with a tire iron. I'm still surprised that loaded up behemoth of a van got that kind of mpg.
 
I'm more in the 18 - 20 mpg range in normal mixed driving.
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Re: VCM engine [jimbob1] by ronjack
May 13, 2009 (9:20 am)
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Replying to: jimbob1 (May 11, 2009 6:16 pm)

Thanks for the info. Do you notice any difference in sluggishness when it drops down in cylinders? hen you bought the Odyssey, wre you looking specifically for the VCM option.?
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Re: VCM engine [ronjack] by decon
May 13, 2009 (9:27 am)
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Replying to: ronjack (May 13, 2009 9:20 am)

I test drove the Odyssey EX (no VCM) and the Odyssey EX-L (VCM). The EX seemed more uncomfortable (not as smooth) accelerating. I can detect the VCM cylinder changes in the accelerator going from ECO to regular.
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Re: VCM engine [ronjack] by jimbob1
May 14, 2009 (1:28 pm)
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Replying to: ronjack (May 13, 2009 9:20 am)

I wasn't looking for VCM, but I figured if anyone could engineer it well, it would be Honda or Toyota. I did want leather, so the VCM came along for the ride, so to speak.
 
Most of the time, I can't detect when it goes in or out of VCM. Occasionally, I think I can, but I'm not really sure.
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Re: VCM engine [jimbob1] by ateixeira
May 15, 2009 (8:10 am)
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Replying to: jimbob1 (May 14, 2009 1:28 pm)

FWIW, our friends in Tucson own an Ody with VCM and let me drive it for a day, and I could not tell when VCM was active besides the "ECO" light in the dash.
 
My complaints were more related to road noise, but the VCM was just fine. Didn't seem to go on very often, though.
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Re: VCM engine [jimbob1] by olavanman
May 18, 2009 (6:45 am)
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Replying to: jimbob1 (May 14, 2009 1:28 pm)

Hello,
We just got the 2009 Odyssey EX-L with RES and I cannot detect when the VCM goes on or off (except for the "ECO" Indicator). It does make me feel good when the "ECO" light shows up . When I am driving down the highway, it comes on quite often.

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