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Vans & Minivans Honda Odyssey Honda Odyssey vs. Toyota Sienna
5231 messages, Last post on Dec 07, 2009 at 4:09 AM
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Replying to: thegraduate (Mar 17, 2009 10:35 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Mar 17, 2009 11:01 am)   Just messing with ya. But yes, the tranny has been changed/upgraded more than once over the last 10 years. |
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Can someone provide me an explanation for the "poor" IIHS rear crash test rating for the Sienna (compared to a "good" rating for the Odyssey), shown in the current issue of Consumers Reports? Also, the "overall safety" rating and the "crash protection w/wo side air bags" for the Sienna are worse than for the Odyssey. Isn't this a clear and important advantage for the Odyssey, for us "family" car buyers? If this has been dealt with in earlier posts, I'm sorry to repeat an old topic (I scanned hundreds of posts and didn't find anything.) Thanks. - John
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Replying to: john2009 (Mar 18, 2009 2:38 am) |
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Replying to: ateixeira (Mar 17, 2009 8:16 am)
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Replying to: john2009 (Mar 18, 2009 2:38 am) Funny thing is Subarus do really well but consumers complain that the new headrests get in the way more often. |
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Replying to: lavrishevo (Mar 19, 2009 5:00 am) One correction to a previous post: we don't ask for VINs, because few people are going to go through the trouble to provide them. And we've observed no need to do so. Results here: Car Reliability Survey results
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All, After 8 years driving Sienna vans ( 2001 and 2004 LE model) I finally decided to have a change and go for a Honda Odyssey EX. Here are my comparisons. FIRST: What I like About my 2004 Sienna 8 seater LE that is missing from my new 2009 Odyssey EX. (1) The folding middle row seats that can tumble and secure in the up position in the Sienna. On the Ody, I need to fully remove the middle row seats and store them in the garage to gain maximum utilization for loading large items like furniture. Just like the earlier generation Sienna. The tumble forward action also makes it easier to load adult passengers in the third row in the Sienna. The Ody only slides forward and does not tumble forward for greater access to load goods from the side door. (2) I miss the power sliding door button on the middle door column that is on the Sienna. I have to train myself to use the handle to open the door which I find less access able closing the door after loading the kids... (3) I miss the temperature/compass/MPG readout by the rear view mirror on the Sienna. (4) When installing 3 child seats in the middle row the Sienna seat configuration is more usable than the Ody. On the Ody you cannot place a full size Child car seat (or even a booster seat) in the second row middle seat and expect to be able to adjust the forward and back position on the adjacent Window seats easily. We decided to forgo the 2 row middle seat on the Ody and store it in the garage. (5) I think the floor mats on the ODY is cumbersome with all the pieces and clips you have to contend with when time to clean. The Toyota is straight forward old school -- take it out and wash... To access the floor storage on the Ody is not easy because the floor mat is in the way... (6) PET PEEVE: Categorized this under illogical... I heard that this was standard Honda practise from long ago but why does Honda sell vans with roof rails but not include at least the cross bars to make them functional? They just add to wind resistance for owners who will not add the cross bars or other attachments to make them functional. You have to dish out an extra $200 for the bars ( $100 /a piece) to make the rails functional. Toyota doesn't fool around and adds full functionality of the roof rack when you buy an LE version....In my opinion well done Toyota. (7) Minor -- I miss the ceiling radio console on the Sienna ( non DVD version). This allows me to add a aftermarket DVD system without having to cut the roof liner and route a DC power line. So after 3 years when I trade in the van I can remove the DVD player and put the car back the way it was. ******* SECOND: Now what I ***LIKE*** about my new Honda Odyssey EX. (1) The overall drive and ride experience. When first drove a 2004 Sienna I thought the ride was superior to any van I have driven before and I thought this would be hard to beat. Now when I drive my new Ody EX I can tell that it surpasses my 2004 LE driving experience. The suspension is just tuned right for comfort and the load of my family of 2 adults and 4 kids. I have not tried a full load yet to make a valued comment... Engine even at 5 miles the Ody was very responsive and gear shifting is clean and smooth with no jerking movement. The 2004 Sienna I purchased had tranny issues since it was the first year of that new Sienna model and there was a noticeable accelleration lag and jerky shifting after a slowing down to come to a stop . (2) Turning radius on the Ody is incredible compared to my 2004 Sienna. I would turn the wheel on the Ody expecting it to stop after a number of revolutions but it kept on going and I made very tight truns with ease. I found this such a plus... (3) The stock sound system is superior on the Ody. (4) The ability to adjust the air conditioning temp for the driver and front/rear passenger separately is a plus... Just needs getting used to... (5) Not sure of the dimension difference but the Ody feels roomier inside. Even my 8 year old mentions that she can stand up straight in the Ody. My Conclusion? Honda should *pirate* the seating logic/design from Toyota Sienna . If they do so in my opinion Honda would be the hands down winner... |
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Replying to: familyman (Mar 26, 2009 9:33 pm) |
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We're in the middle of the Odyssey (EX-L) vs Sienna (low end XLE) buying dilemma and have recently test-driven both. One thing that surprised both my (5-ft) wife and (6-ft) me was the difference in the telescoping steering wheel. The Odyssey wheel just wouldn't come out far enough for me to find a comfortable driving position. The Sienna seemed to have a much larger range of adjustment, and I was able to get the wheel so I could drive with my hands in the 10 and 2 o'clock position. Had to grab the Odyssey wheel more toward the bottom even when fully extended. Has anyone else had this experience? Maybe I should try another one....
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