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5135 messages, Last post on Nov 09, 2009 at 1:03 PM
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Replying to: g3guy (Feb 26, 2009 9:29 pm) Thank you for being so thorough in your reply, and sorry about mine being so short, I was limited for time when I made it. For background info, We had a 2000 Odyssey, which we kept for 5.5 years. We liked it, didn't love it (it IS a van, after all). I have a 2006 Accord (which has had its share of little defects in the 45,000 miles I've had it), and a 1996 Accord which turned over 189k miles tonight. What I meant to ask was about the transmission in particular. In the time since your Odyssey, drastic changes have been made to the transmissions in Odyssey vans. As another poster pointed out, the heavier-duty Ridgeline transmission is now in the Odyssey. I've actually not heard of transmission problems since the current model debuted in 2005. No issues with Accord or Pilot transmissions in the last five years (that I know of) either. All that said, I can't say I wouldn't be reluctant either, having had issues with your current ride. I'm not condemning the second thoughts at all; its a lot of money you're spending. Just know that no car is perfect coming off the assembly line! |
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Replying to: berri (Feb 26, 2009 5:39 pm) More than a few...that engine dates back to 2003. Even the V6 (3.3l) that replaced that sludge-prone V6 (3.0l) has been replaced with a new V6 (3.5l)! Phew, say that fast 10 times. Any how, their engines have been great for 2 whole generations now. Looking back, Toyota tried to bury it, blame consumers, and that backfired on them big time. They ended up extending coverage for 100k miles for owners who could prove they did at least one oil change per year. So in the end the customers did OK, though it did take the power of the internet to bring a giant manufacturer to its knees. Let's be real here - these are for-profit companies. Toyota didn't extend coverage out of the goodness of their hearts. They did so because their bean counters calculated that the damage to their reputation would be bigger than the cost of fixing the problem. Period. Probably why we see a lot of people being very vocal about their Honda trannies. Let's just be specific and qualify what model years we're talking about.
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Replying to: ateixeira (Feb 27, 2009 10:06 am) PS - its nice to have higher mileage cars that don't leak fluids on the garage floor as well!
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Replying to: berri (Feb 27, 2009 6:03 pm) Ford has improved, and GM and Chrysler both have long warranties now. It's a shame they may not all survive long enough to change public perception about their new vehicles, though. |
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Replying to: ateixeira (Mar 02, 2009 12:08 pm) We have been generally disappointed by our 2000 Ody. We have had the transmission replaced twice: the first time at 86K miles (which Honda covered) and most recently last week at 130K miles (Honda put up 1K we paid the remaining $2,400). Each of the power sliding doors has been repaired AT LEAST four times. The engine mounts have all been replaced twice and the catalytic converter had to be replaced. We are fed up with the transmission problems and are looking for another mini-van (NEW). I think the Sienna XLE FWD is the way to go, although I am confident that Honda has improved the Ody's quality since the 2000 model. I am interested in receiving any feedback you might have.
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1983gti Tell me that you are not considering encouraging Honda again ?? if so I dont understand you guys, a manufacturer put you through all that and you are willing to give him your money again , well thats another mystery of life  ) Go with Toyota they are not perfect either but they are more reliable |
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Replying to: 1983gti (Mar 09, 2009 10:16 am)
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Replying to: lavrishevo (Mar 09, 2009 1:58 pm) What information do you have about the Sedona/Entourage that says they are more reliable than the Odyssey? |
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Replying to: lavrishevo (Mar 09, 2009 1:58 pm) I would still probably take a chance with the Korean vans over the Chrysler van's though. |
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I think you need to go pick up a new CR and see how many Kia / Hyundai models they recommend now with ratings well above average. But leaving CS out and I am speaking of just the minivan from 06 up after the redesign go over and look at the edmunds forum. Look at the problems people are having with them. Very minor stuff almost always covered under warranty. You can also tow up to 3,500 lbs with trailer brakes on the new Korean van. I am giving you my opinion about the vans quality and Edmunds user rating of the van is very high. I own one and am am very happy with it. Kia's are not dropping tranny's like no tomorrow, they have a timing chain with NO scheduled replacement interval, very good powerful 3.8 250/253 engine, many standard features such as esc, abs, tpms, de-icer all standard. I'm not going to argue and turn this into prove it blah blah blah. This again is my opinion and personal experience. We have two Honda's in the family, not the Ody, and both are good cars but have cost way to much $$$ for standard maintenance, both have had minor problems not covered under the standard warranty. The Koreans are trying very hard to gain market share right now and their quality has drasticly improved. Anyway, I hope my input helps.
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