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Honda Odyssey vs. Toyota Sienna

5135 messages,  Last post on Nov 09, 2009 at 1:03 PM

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Re: Ody owner moving to Sienna, first impressions [bobber1] by semenzato
Feb 17, 2009 (10:28 pm)
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Replying to: bobber1 (Feb 12, 2009 6:00 pm)

Thanks Bobber1. We are in the snow right now (a lot of snow in fact) and the Sienna AWD handles it wonderfully. Then again it's probably the snow tires, rather than the AWD, that's doing the trick. The wheels are just not slipping.
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Re: Sienna vs Odyssey: Do I need AWD? [newvanner] by ateixeira
Feb 19, 2009 (9:42 am)
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Replying to: newvanner (Feb 12, 2009 9:01 pm)

Snow tires ought to work well, the catch is you have to mount/dismount them and find space to store 4 tires.
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Re: Ody owner moving to Sienna, first impressions [semenzato] by ateixeira
Feb 19, 2009 (9:42 am)
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Replying to: semenzato (Feb 12, 2009 11:50 am)

You just described the operation of the dual stage intake system on the Sienna perfectly.
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Sienna / Odyssey by eppeppepp
Feb 21, 2009 (6:48 pm)
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Drove an 09 Odyssey EXL with RES & Nav and an 09 Sienna AWD XLE and an FWD Sienna today...all were nice vans. We had never owned a Honda or a Toyota before..nor been to either dealer previously.
 
We ended up liking the Odyssey better..for a few reasons (and most are subjective)..
 
1) I'm very tall, and found the drivers seat felt "deeper" on the odyssey....there was more seat to support my legs. My wife had no preference on this one.
 
2) I liked the handling of the Honda better than either of the Toyotas...just felt better connected with the road.
 
3) We actually liked the fold-away aspect of the center console on the Honda better than the bulkier unit in the Toyota....will help with access to the backseat on trips (multiple kids in cars seats)..but can still flip up and be there to hold sodas, etc...
 
4) I liked the technology better on the Honda -- the navigation system was more intuitive for both of us.
 
5) I liked the sound system interface better on the Honda, but the sound quality seemed somewhat better on the Toyota. Didn't spend a lot of time on this though.
 
6) The Honda dealer was much lower pressure, and more professional. Obviously this will vary from dealer to dealer -- but we were much more comfortable with the Honda dealer.
 
We will be buying an Odyssey this week....=)
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Re: Sienna / Odyssey [eppeppepp] by ateixeira
Feb 23, 2009 (9:20 am)
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Replying to: eppeppepp (Feb 21, 2009 6:48 pm)

Congrats in advance.
 
For #3 - you can choose either a fold away tray or a full-sized center console for the Sienna, though certain models come with the latter standard.
 
I'd trade because I have the folding tray and would prefer the big console for the extra space. They are hyper-expensive, $529 retail cost. You could sell it and make a small fortune, then buy the cheaper folding tray.
 
If you have captain's chairs on a Sienna, you can even get 2 consoles. It's interchangeable between the first and 2nd rows (but it's n/a for the 8 seat model).
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Think again about buying an Odessey!! by g3guy
Feb 25, 2009 (8:50 pm)
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OK, everyone go to the top of the webpage and click on "vans", and on "Honda Odessey", and on "Odessey transmission problems" and read the posts. Especially the 600 to 900 numbers, which describe the horrible transmission problems that everyone, not just the older-van owners have had with the Ody, and the two class-action suits and recalls. I have a 2000 Ody, now on its third transmission and waiting for me to trade it off, and that's why I'm on the Toyota forum tonight. I'm doing some homework that I wish I could have done before I bought the Ody. I love the thing: it is beautiful, drives like a dream, has lots of room, and so on, but it eats transmissions. And no, Honda doesn't like to admit it, and their service is terrible. I was lucky and had a helpful Service Manager at my local dealer, but after reading the posts on the Odessey transmission forum, I think I was the only one. Caveat emptor!! (translates to LOOK OUT!!)
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Re: Think again about buying an Odessey!! [g3guy] by thegraduate
Feb 26, 2009 (10:17 am)
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Replying to: g3guy (Feb 25, 2009 8:50 pm)

You don't think some things have changed in 5 years?
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Re: Think again about buying an Odessey!! [g3guy] by ateixeira
Feb 26, 2009 (11:45 am)
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Replying to: g3guy (Feb 25, 2009 8:50 pm)

The class action settlement appplied to 99-01 models, quite some time ago:
 
http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f0fa11e/920
 
Reading down a bit further they say the 07s got a new trans from the Ridgeline. Do you have evidence of a pattern of failure on the 07 or later?
 
Otherwise, welcome to 3 years ago.
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Re: Think again about buying an Odessey!! [ateixeira] by berri
Feb 26, 2009 (5:39 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Feb 26, 2009 11:45 am)

You can also talk about Toyota engine sludge a few years back. Here's the thing though, Honda and Toyota stood up to their issues on properly maintained cars after the original warranty expired. D3 would have told you tough luck. I've experienced both. It isn't just product, but also customer focus that has slammed D3. Just like in business, I'll go with the vendor that is upfront when there is a problem and stands behind it for a reasonable period of time. I don't need a bunch of bunk and maybe (If they are feeling generous that day) a rebate offer on a new car, I want my current ride taken care of.
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Re: Think again about buying an Odessey!! [thegraduate] by g3guy
Feb 26, 2009 (9:29 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Feb 26, 2009 10:17 am)

Grad: I'm not sure what you mean by your reference to things changing in five years, but I know that Honda is getting less and less amiable and willing to help out the customers who bought their Odys in good faith, Over the years, my family has owned four Honda sedans, one Accura, and now the Ody. We loved all of them, but when the tranny went on the van and we got nowhere with American Honda, the bad feelings started. If it had not been for the forceful assistance of a mechanic standing up to a service manager in the first instance and an honest service manager in the second, we would have had to eat the full cost of the transmission replacement. That's not good business for Honda, and this forum is full of examples of their unwillingness to act on behafl of people who trusted them with their money and their lives. So, no, I don't think much has changed with Honda, in the last five years, or the last ten. Though I'd love to buy a new Odyessy, I just can't bring myself to have faith in Honda again. I'd appreciate your thoughts on the issue, as I really do love my Ody; I just wish I could trust it.

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