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Vans & Minivans Honda Odyssey Honda Odyssey vs. Toyota Sienna
5221 messages, Last post on Dec 03, 2009 at 5:37 PM
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Replying to: lab88 (Nov 11, 2008 10:50 am) It's so fun surprising people at stoplights. I actually beat some teen in a brand new Black 2008 mustang V6 5-speed manual. So fun seeing his face at the next stoplight. He rolled down the window and asked if it was stock  We get 21 mpg in our 07 compared to 14-15 in our 04.
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Replying to: hause7 (Nov 12, 2008 1:11 am) |
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Replying to: hause7 (Nov 12, 2008 1:11 am) I test drove a leftover new 2008 Ody today, and I have to say I did not like the steering as much as I like the 07+ Sienna's. I currently drive an Element, so I'm used to Honda steering. I think the new Ody has got the steering too tight now. Weird.
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Replying to: lab88 (Nov 12, 2008 6:26 pm) We haven't driven our Sienna in 2 weeks now  It's at the body shop, a lady rear ended us after a month of owning it and she just took off. She hit us so hard we were pushed into the curb. They had to change the whole rear end and front axles. I think the bill is up to $10,000+ in repairs. Will find out when we pick it up. We miss it 
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Replying to: yak33 (Nov 08, 2008 10:36 pm) Agree the Sienna has more power in a lighter vehicle that also has the most cargo space behind the 3rd row seat BUT the Odyssey has the most comfortable seating with the most leg room for 2nd and 3rd row seats. I would buy a new 2008 Odyssey EX tomorrow if I could get one for 20 % off the MSRP at one of my local Honda dealers even though my 2006 Sienna LE has depreciated too rapidly. 
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We test drove Ody 2008/2009 and 2009 Sienna in the past several days and end up buying a Ody. The reasons are very clear; 1. Ody handles much better than Sienna and the rear visibility is much better. Ody drives like a car and Sienna keeps remind me it is a truck and floats. 2. Ody has a lower floor which is much easier to in and out especially for my aging mother. 3. The leather in Ody is softer and seats are more comfy. 4. Inside of Ody is brighter and more welcome feeling. Sienna's windows are smaller and darker tinted. My 7 year-old said sitting in the 3rd row seat felt "creepy". 5. Honda dealership is way better than Toyota dealership. Fro example, the sales person left us hanging for 45 minutes just to get gas for the test drive van. 6. The dash of Sienna looks ugly with very brightly colored fake wood on very dark colored plastic. |
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Replying to: dz6t (Nov 30, 2008 10:50 pm) 1. no way. Sienna has a more solid steering/handling/braking feel period. Ody rolls more in turns. 2. agree, but for us a very minor point. 3. agree. 4. N/A 5. I guess your experience with the Toyota dealership counts as the watershed for all Toyota dealerships? 6. agreed, but Sienna's non-wooded version looks fine. Comparing non-wooded version to Ody is no contest - Sienna wins hands down. Ody dash has slight 'cheap plastic' look to it, while the Sienna is more refined. 7. Can't believe you left this one out and it's a biggie - did you compare road noise between the two? Ody definitely louder inside, especially 3rd row.
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Replying to: yak33 (Dec 01, 2008 3:58 am) 6. Perhaps the particular model Sienna they wanted had wood, making it a deal-breaker?
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Replying to: thegraduate (Dec 01, 2008 7:56 am) In C&D's comparo, the lateral grip was actually equal, 0.76g. This despite the fact that the Sienna they tested came handicapped with smaller wheels and higher profile tires. The Sienna's steering is nicely weighted, i.e. more heft than the earlier models had, but it is sort of numb, and I think this is why people say the Ody "handles better", i.e. because you can feel what the tires are doing. The Sienna is a lot more isolated, both in terms of steering feel and in terms of road noise, though. For that same reason it rides better, and tends to be a bit quieter (I sat in the 3rd row of an Ody while visiting a friend for 4 days, and it was definitely louder). So, which one "handles" better? If I were going to drive around a tight autocross course and wanted to know exactly what each tire was doing, and to place the vehicle exactly on each apex perfectly, I'd pick the Ody. Even though it may not be faster or grip better laterally, it communicates more info to the driver. Ody wins. If I'm going to take a road trip with the kids and just want to have some peace and quiet so they can sleep or watch a movie with their headphones while I listen to my own music, then by far I'd prefer the Sienna. It would also be my choice to drive my mother-in-law over a bunch of pot holes, she actually would not complain given how well the Sienna quells (handles?) rough pavement. Sienna wins. Since I consider mine a family car, and especially since it's not the only vehicle I drive (I get my kicks in my Miata), the choice was very clear for me. I can understand why someone stuck driving only one single car full time might choose an Ody, however. To be honest, though, I fell in love with the 2GR V6's 266hp. It is notably quicker than the Ody. |
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Replying to: dz6t (Nov 30, 2008 10:50 pm) 2. This and your first point are a result of the Ody's ground clearance being only 4.3 inches-- that is half an inch less than a Porsche Boxster. Not a problem if you never leave a paved surface, but for those of us who have occasion to drive a fully loaded van on rough or unimproved roads and driveways the low ground clearance can be a real problem. The Sienna's 6.9" clearance is much more comfortable. 3. Personal preference. I could be happy with either, my wife was much more comfortable in the Sienna seats. 4. Personal preference. On some sunny days I wish our Sienna windows were a bit darker. 5. I wasn't impressed by any dealer on either team. The Honda dealers were either uninterested in negotiating or left me with an oily feeling. The Toyota dealers were willing to negotiate, but even the dealer I bought from was no gem either. 6. We thought the Honda dash was scattered, poorly organized, and inelegant compared to the intuitive and clean dash of the Toyota where every control was exactly where we expected it to be.
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