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Toyota Sienna, Honda Odyssey, Car Comparisons, Van
#4642 of 5511 Re: Best (Most Reliable) Van for $25Kish [lookingnewcar]
Jun 08, 2008 (5:38 am)
Throw the dice or use the Ouija Board. There are lemons of all brands as well as almost perfect for every brand.
My 2006 Sienna LE is no better and no worse than was my 2002 T&C LX. The Chrysler T&C provides more nice features for the $$,$$$ spent than does Toyota Sienna or Honda Odyssey. My daughter's 1999 GC SE has 109,000 miles with very few repairs as does my sister's 2001 Odyssey with 92,000 miles. We have had no repairs yet on our 2006 Sienna with 20,600 miles. Both the 99 GC and our other daughter's 02 T&C LX had original OEM tires replaced at about 55,000 miles.
You can read about problems with ANY brand here in Edmund's Car Space. Worst problem with Chrysler minivans is the disc brake pad dust on wheels while the Sienna has cheap exterior sheet metal which dents easily on the front doors and liftgate.
#4643 of 5511 Re: Best (Most Reliable) Van for $25Kish [lookingnewcar]
Jun 09, 2008 (7:36 am)
The best value seems to turn on which is offering the best incentives at the moment. Here, given your Toyota loyalty and evident desire for a softer ride, your choice of the Sienna should be pretty easy. I would suggest, though, shopping for an '08 too.
#4644 of 5511 Re: Best (Most Reliable) Van for $25Kish [lookingnewcar]
Jun 09, 2008 (7:38 am)
The transmission should be fine, I think you read about a few mostly isolated incidents, which will creep up for any model. People wanting to complain will seek out forums like these.
FWIW, the Sienna has used the same U151E automatic transmission since 2004, and it's been Consumer Reports' most reliable van for many years in a row.
#4645 of 5511 DON'T Trust Consumer Reports
Jul 09, 2008 (8:58 am)
Look at their track record: The Odyssey was their first choice for many years but now you can read of MANY Odyssey transmission failures here in CarSpace forums.
My 2006 Sienna has been reliable so far with 22,550 miles but now has vibration which appears to be coming from the front wheels. My less expensive 2002 Chrysler T&C did not develop this problem in the 34,000 miles I drove it.
(Consumer Reports has bad mouthed Chrysler T&C for many years but my friends and I never had any reliability problems with Chrysler T&C or Dodge GC).
Jul 09, 2008 (6:48 pm)
We have a '06 Ody EXL-RES and we're not very happy with it. There's a few problems with it like a droning noise, vibration in the steering wheel, paint blotches and window seals. Even though it's still a really good car and fun to drive, the road noise will drive you nuts. We also own a '04 Civic and the road noise is unbearable. If I could do it all over again I would buy a Sienna instead of the Odyssey. I think the overall build quality is much better with a Toyota product and they are a lot quieter.
Jul 10, 2008 (7:06 am)
There's a few problems with it like a droning noise,
Amen to THAT!!!
#4648 of 5511 Re: [poocat]
Jul 13, 2008 (12:22 pm)
There's a few problems with it like a droning noise..
If the droning is at 2100 rpm, I think there is a TSB that addresses it (maybe 06-050 IIRC.)
#4649 of 5511 Which one to purchase used?
Jul 22, 2008 (11:32 am)
I'm an owner of a Saturn Relay, and although it has been ok, I'm worried about reliability and would like better gas mileage too. I'm stuck between each of these vehicles, I can't afford a new one so I would have to get either a 2005 or 2006 price permitting. I want an EX-L Odyssey or Sienna LE. The Odyssey seems to have the advantage with mileage with VCM but Sienna isn't bad either. I've test drove both and I give a slight edge to the Odyssey as well, just more "fun" to drive. Sienna was more sedate, and 3.3 motor seems very sluggish until you hit the throttle. I've been reading these forums enthusiastically lately hoping to learn more, I don't think I can go wrong either way, especially compared to the Relay. So long term reliability, extended warranties and price is going to be key to what I eventually decide. I guess I'm posting to see if there is any words of wisdom I can gather about purchasing one of these used, things to look for in each model. Power steering, transmissions etc. I need a DVD player for the kids is a must. The rest isn't as important and not deal breakers.
Thanks in advance,
#4650 of 5511 Re: Which one to purchase used? [dantana01]
Jul 22, 2008 (11:44 am)
Neither of these vehicles is going to give you that much more mileage than a Relay; if that is your primary motive, and money is an issue, stick with the relay and save a little more dough unless the Relay is starting to have problems.
#4651 of 5511 Re: Which one to purchase used? [thegraduate]
Jul 22, 2008 (4:19 pm)
True, I may not gain more than a few MPG, I'm averaging 19 mpg and that is mostly because I put larger tires on it. I went from 225x60 to 245x65, added about 2" to the diameter. Unfortunately the Relay has been in the shop quite often, luckily it was under factory warranty and had to fix the fog lamp, interior trim, ABS sensor, front end alignment and ABS computer. Now the gas guage isn't' working correctly when I fill up the tank it reads empty until it goes down a few gallons then begins to read normally, but strangely the remote starter quits working when that happens too, then gives me the check engine light. Saturn said to bring it in after I use up enough gas so they can remove the tank, but I can't help but wonder what is next. From what I've read on the Relay forums I'm probably one of the lucky ones, and that's scary. I can't help thinking I'd have better luck with one of the Japanese models or the Kia?