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Toyota Sienna, Honda Odyssey, Car Comparisons, Van
#3592 of 5511 Re: bumpy test ride in 06 Odyssey [pcsr]
Jun 13, 2006 (3:02 am)
Thank you for sharing this information about the Honda Odyssey. I am in the market for a new vehicle. Presently, I have a 2003 Honda Accord. Thank God, I have the 7 year 100,000 mile extended warranty on this vehicle. To date the warranty has paid for the following: ---1.) An AC compressor, 2.) Motor mounts, 3.) Power window assembly (driver's door) 4.) Radio display. The total cost of the repairs under the extended warranty is just about $3,000.00. I am looing at either the Honda Odyssey or the Toyota Sienna. My Honda dealer is outstanding in terms of service. There was never a problem with any of the warranty work that was performed on the vehicle. I don't know if I will be able to find a Toyota dealer that will give me the same high quality service. On the other hand, I do not want a vehicle that has a droning noise at 2500 rpms, a brake grinding problem, poor radio reception, road noise, a sliding door problem and poor fuel mileage. In the past, some Odyseey vehicles also had a transmission issue. ----(I wounder if that issue still exists? I guess "time" will tell if there is a problem in this area.) Today, I will be visiting a Toyota dealership that a friend has recommended. If I take a test ride today, I will be sure to pay very careful attention to the operating characteristics of the Sienna, so I can compare them to the Odyssey at a later date. If I had your Odyssey, with the problems that you have listed, I would use the "lemon law". With the "droning noise at 2200 rpm, the "grinding brake noise" and the problem automatic doors,I would think, that it would be easy to prove "diminished value"! You could also get a small magnetic sign make up stating; --- "Another Honda Lemon" --- and put in on the back of your vehicle, next to the dealer's name sticker. That should get their attention real quick! Sometimes you have to get "peoples attention" to get a problem solved. ----- Best regards. ---- Dwayne
#3593 of 5511 Re: bumpy test ride in 06 Odyssey [pcsr]
Jun 13, 2006 (5:01 am)
We have had to get the same recalls fixed as you (except the MIL light). But they did it all free when we brought our Odyssey in for the air bag sensors to be replaced. They said all 2005 Odyssey's have this problem, and are recalls free of charge. We would have bought the leather, but we thought that $3000 more (Canadian) was abit much for leather, but now realize you get alot more. The engine noise I always thought was just normal, because all I feel was just abit of viberation and its a deep noise but it seems fine. My breaks actually work well, asides from the annoying noise. We dont actually calculate our gas milage, but it doesnt seem to bad in mixed driving. Our Odyssey now has 37 000km's on it has never let us down in any kind of weather and we have reached tempatures as low as almost -40, and eather the Accord or Odyssey were plugged in and thye both started fine. I think I am the most annoyed by the grinding noise from the rear breaks !
#3594 of 5511 Re: bumpy test ride in 06 Odyssey [djm2]
Jun 13, 2006 (7:02 am)
My advice to you is to drive both vans back to back and buy the vehicle that you like the best. While it is true that there have been several recalls on the 05 Odyssey, the 05 was the first year of a completely new design. I am not saying this as an excuse, but twice in my life I have made the mistake of buying a brand new model year vehicle, and in both occasions, I regretted not waiting 1-2 years for the manufacturer to work out the kinks and to see what the reliability is going to be.
Several months ago we (wife and I) went shopping for minivans and I had almost completely made up my mind to buy a Toyota Sienna XLE. I had always felt that Honda was overrated and overpriced. Then when we drove the vans, compared the features and prices, we quickly realized that the Honda was the better van based on our needs. Here was a list of our areas of concern:
- Safety. Both vans are safe but the Odyssey has more standard safety features and received better ratings per IIHS.
- Performance/Handling. This is the biggest difference between these two vans. The Toyota has a very soft ride. It reminded me of the previous generation Camry. The Honda handles and accelerates more like the Accord. While you "feel more of the road" with the Honda, I felt more in control of the vehicle and also felt the vehicle was more responsive. While the Toyota had a "smooth" ride, I also felt it to be somewhat "numb". Again, this is more of a preference thing than anything. I am quite sure that many people would prefer the soft ride of the Sienna over the more firm ride of the Odyssey.
- Reliability. I think that the Sienna may be the more reliable vehicle of the two, but I also do not believe that the Honda is very far behind. So far my 2 month old 06 Odyssey has had zero issues. I do not seem to have (maybe I cannot hear it, but we checked for this when we test drove and we ended up driving three different Odysseys) the droning noise, or have had issues with motor mounts, or any other issues, and I cannot complain about my MPG on a van which is not broken in yet (I am averaging 18/25MPG with the A/C on the whole time). If you look through the problem boards for both vans you will see they both have issues. It seems to me that no vehicle is defect free, but I leaned toward the Honda based on the dealer experience I received. That fact that you have experienced good dealer service should not be taken lightly. My advice is to listen for the "droning" noise when you test drive the 06 Odyssey. Neither my wife nor I could hear it.
- Resale. Both vehicles have great resale value, but the Honda is slightly better (at least here in the Northeast).
- Price. We had right around 27-28K to spend on a minivan. At that price range I was able to purchase an Odyssey EX-L for $27,699 (before TT&L). A comparably equipped Sienna XLE was going to cost over $1K more. The Honda dealer also gave me $500 more for my trade than the Toyota dealer. When the 05 Odyssey came out this was simply not the case in Northern VA. Most Odysseys were going anywhere from $500-2000 OVER MSRP! I was ablt to get mine at close to $600 under invoice and many folks have been able to get an Odyssey even lower ($1000-1300 under).
I was honestly surprised that we ended up with the Honda. Going into it I wanted the Toyota and my wife wanted the Town and Country. I would also recommend driving the 06 Kia Sedona/Hyundai Entourage. We have not regretted buying our Honda for one second..
Good luck and keep us posted.
#3596 of 5511 Re: bumpy test ride in 06 Odyssey [dc_driver]
Jun 13, 2006 (6:12 pm)
Thank you for a VERY informative "posting". Last night, I stopped at the local Hyundai dealer and looked at their new Hyundai van. If it didn't say "Hyundai" on the vehicle, I would have thought it was a Toyota. It seems that there are a lot of Toyota components on the interior of this vehicle. What stops me from considering this vehicle is as follows:
1.) This is the first year for this Hyundai.
2.) While I believe that Hyundai does produce a "quality" vehicle, the resale value of the Hyundai van over the Toyota or Honda will be very different. If the person purchasing the vehicle wants to drive the van for a long time, then "resale" is not an issue. I do not own a vehicle after the extended warranty expires, which translates into 100,000 to 120,000 miles, depending on the manufacturer. (Honda = 120,000 miles and Toyota = 100,000 miles).
Thank you for the information. ---- Best regards. ---- Dwayne
#3597 of 5511 Re: bumpy test ride in 06 Odyssey [05ody]
Jun 13, 2006 (6:28 pm)
Just drove the Odyssey today and it seems the breaks only do it sometimes, because it didnt today. I made sure to pay close attention. And also, the engine "humming" only does it around 80km/h, when the rpm is at about 2000-2200rpm, but other then that I cant really hear or feel it
#3598 of 5511 Re: bumpy test ride in 06 Odyssey [djm2]
Jun 13, 2006 (6:35 pm)
Funny, those were my thoughts on the Hyundai as well and why I passed on it...
Give these guys a few more reliable years and they could be a real contender...
#3600 of 5511 comfort in Odyessy vs Sienna
Jun 13, 2006 (7:01 pm)
I hope to be buying a minivan soon, probably the Odyessy ut the Sienna has its advantages too, like smooth driving, nice interior etc. The disadvantage is that the seats are short under thighs, (I am a 5'8" mom of 3)and this makes it NOT comfortable. I had a 2000 Odyessy, the comfort was so so on this and the 2006 is a lot better. It is not perfect but better, I am picky because of bad back problems. I am wondering what people think of the odyessy as far as comfort, even on long drives? I have a SUV right now, it is way too expensive and too big to drive so I want to go back to a minivan. Have looked extensivly at other vans and this is the best. So just want to know what others think? Thanks
#3601 of 5511 Re: bumpy test ride in 06 Odyssey [dc_driver]
Jun 14, 2006 (2:18 am)
Thank you for the reply. It seems that two "great minds" think alike! ---- Have a "GREAT" day. ---Dwayne