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Toyota Sienna, Honda Odyssey, Car Comparisons, Van
#3158 of 5511 My experience: Sienna LE+BZ package $25k
Nov 09, 2005 (9:56 am)
My wife and I are Honda fans actually. We had 2001 four door civic EX and just sold for $9700 in less than a day. We still have a 2002 Honda Accord.
When we were thinking for a mini-van, of course we went to Honda dealers and test-drove Ody for a couple of times. We won't be able to go to the top models/options since we have a budget of $25k pre-tax.
We got a quote from Honda dealers of $24,986 before tax for a Ody LX. But finally we got a Sienna LE + BZ package, or the #4 package, instead. The pre-tax price is $25,400.
After we got the van, we feel:
1) The edmunds TMV for Sienna vans should be reduced to $1000 lower; It's simply not right. Both my wife and I are kind of green and don't know how to negotiate at all, we don't even speak good English, so I don't think we could get something way below the TMV. I am afraid the TMV should be even lower.
2)Honda Ody LX is very nice, but has less feature than Sienna LE + BZ(#4) package. Such as, right power sliding door; privacy windows; power driver seat; 6 CD changer; and many others for convenience.
3) The toyota dealership in TN has done a better job than the Honda dealership in the same area. It may or may not be the case elsewhere though.
4) The only thing we really don't like on the Sienna LE+BZ package van is the ugly antenna. It is in the glass for XLE and above models, but we have to live with it due to the budget issue.
Hopefully the above info can help future buyers.
#3159 of 5511 Re: Odyssey is a big disappointment [gopurdue]
Nov 09, 2005 (10:20 am)
Well I have a Touring with no R/N and I love it. I gave up my 2004 Chrysler T&C limited, and I'm very impressed by the dramatic differences in both vans. I really hated to lose my T&C, but the honda is better built in many ways. look at the Edmunds vehicle comparison and then drive for yourself. As for the Honda being a big disappointment, I really think deep down inside you really wanted the Sienna You said so yourself. (After three weeks, I wish that I had bought the Sienna, even though it's not as attractive and doesn't come with satellite radio.) The things you are complaining about on your Odyssey are minor except mpg. You did call the Odyssey a "compromise". I'm really beginning to think money was a deciding factor or features that the Sienna didn't have. "FACE IT" man or woman, you should have bought the Sienna. IF this make you feel any better no van is perfect. "By every measure our 2006 Odyssey is a better minivan than the 1998 Olds Silhouette that it replaced, yet I'd have to say that the Olds never disappointed me the way that the Odyssey has". "Oh btw", I since a little contradiction in this statement. When it comes to spending $40,000 or close to it, you should get what you like and never compromise.
Nov 09, 2005 (12:01 pm)
"you should get what you like and never compromise"
Good concept hard to impliment though - what people like is not always available. I would like a minivan with a diesel engine and a manual transmission - where do I get that?
Nov 09, 2005 (3:08 pm)
I want one with force fields between the kids' seats, and is also self cleaning. So, in a sense I settled for the Sienna, since it doesn't have those things.
#3162 of 5511 Re: Odyssey is a big disappointment [minivanguy]
Nov 09, 2005 (7:02 pm)
Good points minivanguy.
Let's fast forward 5-10 years or so. Folks like us will be posting from their blackberry successors and look back on today's Ody and Sienna like they were the Pontiac Transport versus Aztek or VW Thing versus Yugo. For those who aren't familiar, these were four vehicles that were ugly and did nothing for most consumers but scatter the USA market to other segments. In ten years you might get laughed at by your neighbors who say, "You still have an INTERNAL COMBUSTION engine? C'mon Mr. Morph-resistant, it's all about 'nucular' (a presidential quote) hydrogen green electric plutonic pnuemonic plasma hybrids, get with the world government mandated program, you're making us all look bad to the mother ship."
Every vehicle ever made is a compromise but they evolve in directions and for reasons I don't fully understand. I only wish that more forethought and weight was placed on informal customer feedback which in a way, this place and others offer. I don't recall getting a survey from any auto manufacturer asking what you'd like to see done differently or better next year. OK, Volvo one time, but I never saw any of my suggestions implemented and I have several profitable patents. Let's start with an Ody coin holder!
#3163 of 5511 Re: Odyssey is a big disappointment [davant]
Nov 10, 2005 (4:56 am)
AMEN to the coin holder!!
#3164 of 5511 Re: Odyssey is a big disappointment [gopurdue]
Nov 10, 2005 (6:53 am)
Question...Why didn't you just have an XM radio installed in a Sienna since that seems to be what pushed you over?
And, why is having to use a Torx screwdriver such a big deal? Just curious..how often do you move those cross bars anyway?
Seriously...it's not a good thing to spend that much money and be unhappy. I do think, however, based on the level of your complaints that you would have found minor items on a Sienna that would have bothered you as well.
Nov 10, 2005 (8:46 am)
"OK compromise just a little"
#3166 of 5511 Re: Odyssey is a big disappointment [05ody]
Nov 10, 2005 (10:33 am)
What do you think the bottom of your cup holder is for?
#3167 of 5511 Re: Odyssey is a big disappointment [my1sthonda]
Nov 11, 2005 (5:43 am)
in the '03 and '04 (i think), there was a replacement pull-out where an ash-try would be. it holds two cups, and there is coin-holder slots with a rubberized surface.
this doesn't exist in the '05 / '06 model?