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Toyota Sienna, Honda Odyssey, Car Comparisons, Van
#3119 of 5511 Re: Where can I test drive the Sienna? [hansienna]
Oct 24, 2005 (5:05 pm)
Thank you, guys.
Surely I don't need to test drive a vehicle, especially minivan, to check the "features". I want to check ride smoothness, noise, brake and traction during rain/snow. The guy at Honda said we could go back in December to test drive again to see how well it runs on slippery road. He told me he can not say anything about the price, it's his boss, but for EX-L base it can be around 28K.
The last time I tested-drive a Toyota was in Acton. Now I forgot the address, also it's far from us. They were nice then, allowing me to drive a Camry alone. They might have a couple of cars on the lot for "demo" purpose. I ended up buying a new Accord 2003, just because of the lower cost.
I like the Accord, but my wife complains that the ride is rough. She usually does not want to sit on the back with our daughter, because there she feels it's more bumpy and so get tired.
I have the same feeling about the Ody. That's why I want to check how much smoother the Sienna is to judge the price difference. For that I like to test any one of year 2004+ trim lines, new or used.
I don't blame much the salesman, because I heard they have to work very competitively. The statistics show that if a customer tests drive a car but turn away, it's like 90% chance that he won't come back. And then the saleman gets bad credit from his boss. That's why I told them ahead that I just start looking, with a test drive, but do not buy right away. Sadly this was the first time they rejected me -.
#3120 of 5511 Re: 06 Sienna LE #4 or Odyssey EX-L [kthan]
Oct 26, 2005 (6:27 pm)
Sounds like leather is a big consideration for you, so you want decent leather I'm sure. There is a fair amount of negative comment in this forum on the comparative quality of the Honda leather. See posts: #397 #656 #752 #907 #939 #1030 #1112 #1842 #2081 #2076
#3121 of 5511 Re: Where can I test drive the Sienna? [anhle]
Oct 26, 2005 (6:49 pm)
I bought two cars at Watertown, but I now know I was lucky in that I had nice salesman who, by the way, is no longer there. Your not alone. I had a friend who went there for a Prius on my recommendation and she ran into the same "get lost" attitude as you did. As you can imagine this was kind of embarrassing for me. She subsequently bought her car at Wellesley Toyota. Also, while I was there once I saw some nasty bickering amongst the sales staff. It was a really unprofessional display. I wonder if the management has any idea of what goes on the sale floor.
#3122 of 5511 Re: Where can I test drive the Sienna? [mcase2]
Oct 26, 2005 (9:04 pm)
I'm appalled at this 'holier than thou' Toyota dealerís attitude and could stand silent on the sidelines no more even though this forum is to compare vehicles, not dealers. Taking a test drive is a courtesy that should be extended to any customer past, present, or future. This nose-up attitude is more prevalent at our local Toyo dealer than Honda but both are guilty of I've got the cheese, you be the mouse come payday. That is the primary reason I negotiated via e-mail and just picked up our Ody out of town. What amazes me more is the reversal of this policy in the Euro-premium lines. Toyo, Mercedes-Benz, and BMW dealers all share the same owner & lot but have adjacent buildings in our town. While Sienna shopping I strolled over and was handed keys to a Bimmer and Benz even though I said I wasn't interested and they were beyond my budget. The Volvo dealer was also eager to let us have a car for the night when we were just browsing. Acura and Lexus dealers (one each) I visited were just like Toyota and Honda but dressed better, what a shame. I guess my point other than to rant is that dealers should remember that everyone is a potential customer and should be treated as the most important person in the world at that moment and could buy today if given respect. Skipping that essential step will sour most consumers and they'll likely look elsewhere. It had something to do with my T/H decision. Since this internet thing has caught on you no longer have to play these games as you can have a car at your door for a few bucks more or take a small trip to save a bundle.
On a side note, I wonder if the folks in larger cities flock to small towns like ours to get better deals, LOL?
#3123 of 5511 Re: Where can I test drive the Sienna? [davant]
Oct 27, 2005 (5:41 am)
Out of curiousity, does anyone know what minimum age dealers allow young folks test-drive? I understand they keep a minimum for insurance reasons, but when I was 18, i went car shopping, but only my parents could drive the car. Our friend at our local dealer said in not so many words that what the dealer didn't know wouldn't hurt them as far as who drove. I test drove a Civic around a giant parking lot, but didn't take it out on the road.
Oct 27, 2005 (6:47 am)
My husband and I have been looking at the Odyssey XLT w DVD and NAV and the Sienna Limited with DVD/ NAV. We are leaning heavily toward the Odyssey.
We have 2 small kids (7 & 9). I love the dash in the Sienna, the park assist and adaptive cruise control features. What I don't like about the Sienna is that you can only access the DVD player from the rear. If my kids finish with a movie(long trips) they must or I must remove my seatbelt to change a DVD. In the Honda I have access to the controls up front, no need to remove my seatbelt. I also like the available 8th seat. I also like the in cabin storage in the Honda. Also with the Honda I don't need to go up to a Touring model. What I like about the Sienna is not enough to buy it over the Odyssey.
#3125 of 5511 Re: Sienna or Odyssey [slynn41072]
Oct 27, 2005 (4:50 pm)
Obviously this is a personal decision you and your family with have to make. There are good and bad points to both vehicles but you can't go wrong with either one. Just make sure you spend some quality time (hours) with both so there are fewer regrets later. FYI, there is no XLT trim model Odyssey as you said. I think you are talking about and EX-L which is an EX with Leather trim, the most popular Ody. You can have it with or without Nav and RES. The RES is a no brainer but paying that much more for Navi may not be worth it if you don't do much traveling. The Sienna packages are much more confusing but can offer perhaps the exact combination of features if you're lucky. I too dislike the idea of changing rows to swap DVD's in the Toyota. Happy hunting and let us know what you decide.
#3126 of 5511 Re: Where can I test drive the Sienna? [davant]
Oct 27, 2005 (5:06 pm)
I sent the sales manager at Watertown Toyota a copy of some the comments including my own just to see if they care one way or the other. Naturally I got the "thanks for interest" computer generated response and nothing else. I guess they really don't care if I send them business or not.
#3127 of 5511 What ia Ody RES?
Oct 27, 2005 (5:10 pm)
What option is RES for ODY?
#3128 of 5511 Re: What ia Ody RES? [caravan2]
Oct 27, 2005 (5:39 pm)
RES stands for Rear Entertainment System AKA DVD Player.