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#2468 of 5511 Re: Time to decide [user777]
by kjo
Jul 08, 2005 (7:19 pm)
user777 writes: "remember 4 wheel disc brakes, ABS, traction control, vehicle stability control, side airbags, and 2nd/3rd row side curtain airbags come standard on the even the low-end trim odyssey.
the only big safety features i'm aware in the toyota that aren't offered on the odyssey is AWD (and maybe the Daytime Running Lights (DRLs)).
configure the toyota with the comparable features available in the lowest-end trim of the odyssey and compare price. "
I have read similar things around this arguement and it doesn't hold water for me. There is a very small market for the "lowest-end trim model" of either the Ody or the Sienna. Most buyers of these vans are getting them rather well equipped. There are very few Sienna's on dealer lots with just basic trim, most have rather nice option packages on them. You almost have to order a stripped down version if that's what you want. Also , why would I compare a Sienna with comparable features of a Ody LX when that isn't what I want in my vehicle? I bought an LE with every option available and it also has running boards, the 8 way power seat is more comfortable and more adjustable than the Ody, the JBL sound system is second to none, my wife hates leather , so the only model I would compare it to is an Ody EX and that model doesn't come with RES, which we have. We also have 4 wheel disc brakes, ABS, traction control, vehicle stability control, side airbags, and 2nd/3rd row side curtain airbags and daytime running lights, auto dimming mirror, compass, mpg calculator, outside temp, 2 -115v outlets to plug in playstation or X-box games. To put it all in perspective, we paid $600 more for this van than we did for our 2000 Ody EX back in October of 1999 . We loved that Ody, it was the best car we ever owned, until now. The only things that the new Ody has that our Sienna doesn't is the lazy suzan and the driver side power door. Obviously not deal breakers for us. I was paying very close attention to how it was handling and also how the drivers seat felt as I read some of the critics on this board before we drove it. My observations were , it handled better than the Ody, and the drivers seat was also better, ( the power lumbar is nice), which made me wonder if they changed the seat from earlier models. For the record, I go 6' 205.
It was easily a quieter ride than the Ody. The deal was sealed when I got what I wanted for my 2000 Ody and also got 3.9% for 60, done deal.
#2469 of 5511 Re: Honda Odyssey vs. Toyota Sienna - 2005+ models [isellhondas]
by macakava
Jul 08, 2005 (7:39 pm)
No problem, Mon!
They were both acquaintances of mine and love spirited driving. Remember these were just brief periods of a few seconds like when overtaking a vehicle very briskly doing 70 - 75 on the highway. Once you get there at 100mph, you let go of the gas to coast back down.
One of the most annoying drivers on the highway is when he/she is taking ages to overtake another vehicle and blocking those behind. By over taking briskly, the activiity is completed in a few seconds instead of minutes by a slower "frightened" driver.
Between 75 to 100mph, the Ody felt stronger. I guess that's where the extra ponies come into play.
#2470 of 5511 Re: Time to decide [kjo]
by user777
Jul 08, 2005 (8:30 pm)
the poster was looking at safety features of the sienna vs. odyssey.
#2471 of 5511 Maybe you thought the Ody was going faster than it really was?
by hansienna
Jul 08, 2005 (9:19 pm)
Did it have an inaccurate speedometer and odometer? Or was it the higher "whistling noise" of the Ody that made you think you were going 100 MPH?
In a test drive on the exact same course, my son's 01 Ody EX odometer indicated a distance of 38.8 miles while the 02 GC Sport odometer indicated 37.6 miles.
Does Honda deliberately have the speedometer and odometer read high so people will think they are going faster or getting better gas mileage than they are really getting?
#2472 of 5511 Re: Maybe you thought the Ody was going faster than it really was? [hansienna]
by macakava
Jul 09, 2005 (4:33 am)
Maybe I need to bring the C & D or CR guys with measuring instruments to satisfy your requests.
All comparisons I have seen/read between actual and ODO readings have been within 5%.
I DO know that from 70 mph upwards to 100mph for swift overtaking, the Ody does it very well. From the 70 minivan rentals I had with mostly DGC and some T &C, their engines kick up a racket saying "Don't push me. I just want to loaf along. I am retired"
#2473 of 5511 Re: Time to decide [kjo]
by mcase2
Jul 09, 2005 (5:47 am)
No seat change. I'm 6'4" have had to back surgeries and find the seat comfortable as does my wife at 5' 4"
#2474 of 5511 Re: Odometer within 5 % [macakava]
by hansienna
Jul 09, 2005 (9:24 am)
The 01 Ody EX odometer reads 3.3 % more miles travelled than the 02 GC Sport. Whether the GC Sport is completely accurate or reads less miles than actually travelled I do not know nor do I know if the Ody EX reads exact mileage or 3.3 % high. I just know that the 01 Ody EX read 3.3 % more miles on the exact same course than the 02 GC Sport.
In either situation, the error would fall within the C&D 5 % margin of error.
I have not driven a Sienna on the same course so I do not know how the Sienna odometer accuracy is compared to the Ody.
#2475 of 5511 Re: Odometer within 5 % [hansienna]
by user777
Jul 09, 2005 (10:08 am)
two things to be sure of: both vehicles have stock or identical to stock rims/wheels and have proper size tires, then also both vehicles have proper tire inflation pressure...then i'd perform another side-by-side comparison.
#2476 of 5511 Re: Leather Seats?? [dulnev]
by jon767
Jul 09, 2005 (6:18 pm)
Yeah it has come along way i own a Sienna XLE AWD and leather feels about the same as my Mercedes. Just the Benz is more generous (has a lot more leather).
But i don't know if Toyota uses real leather does anyone know?
#2477 of 5511 Re: Leather Seats?? [jon767]
by toyotaken
Jul 09, 2005 (6:31 pm)
Yota's use real leather on their vehicles if you're paying for leather.
Ken